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Why Aajonus Was Wrong About Bodyfat% (lean is law)

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  • ChillC Offline
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    @jay
    I dont really know if you should get obese, as that term can vary by some standards. Some people use BMI, others use bodyfat % and even then it can change. For example you will find folks claiming 25%+ bodyfat is obese, others will say 30%+. Anyhow, the reason for putting on fat on this diet is simply that it helps with the detox. I will explain down below.

    Detox is short for detoxification, which is when your body is getting rid of toxins. As you will know toxins are stored in the fat. This is exactly why raw butter is so important on the diet. On top of it being so nutrisous, and so dense in energy, the most overlooked aspect of it is that its a fat source without toxins. Bone marrow and other animal fats are extremly nutrisous aswell, but thats where the toxins are stored, so you risk getting sick if you eat them unless they are cooked or your body is well adapted. Just like animals store toxins in their fat, we humans store toxins in our fat, so the more fat you carry on you, the better your body can handle the detoxification and just be more secure in general.

    One more thing I want to add, again I will assume that you are still developing just like me and hopefully working out aswell. In that case, take this opportunity to put on some fat, not to the point where it destroys your hormones, but enough so that you can go on a generational bulk, gain a lot of muscle, and handle the detox well.
    Detoxing and building a great physique both take years to complete. So say you build a lot of muscle, and the detox is approaching its end as your body is getting more adapted to the diet, that should be the time to cut down a bit on the bodyfat. That way you will have spent say 4-5 years extremely productively from a physical perspective, and hit two birds with one stone. That is what I would call a proper body transformation.

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    • ChillC Chill

      @jay
      I dont really know if you should get obese, as that term can vary by some standards. Some people use BMI, others use bodyfat % and even then it can change. For example you will find folks claiming 25%+ bodyfat is obese, others will say 30%+. Anyhow, the reason for putting on fat on this diet is simply that it helps with the detox. I will explain down below.

      Detox is short for detoxification, which is when your body is getting rid of toxins. As you will know toxins are stored in the fat. This is exactly why raw butter is so important on the diet. On top of it being so nutrisous, and so dense in energy, the most overlooked aspect of it is that its a fat source without toxins. Bone marrow and other animal fats are extremly nutrisous aswell, but thats where the toxins are stored, so you risk getting sick if you eat them unless they are cooked or your body is well adapted. Just like animals store toxins in their fat, we humans store toxins in our fat, so the more fat you carry on you, the better your body can handle the detoxification and just be more secure in general.

      One more thing I want to add, again I will assume that you are still developing just like me and hopefully working out aswell. In that case, take this opportunity to put on some fat, not to the point where it destroys your hormones, but enough so that you can go on a generational bulk, gain a lot of muscle, and handle the detox well.
      Detoxing and building a great physique both take years to complete. So say you build a lot of muscle, and the detox is approaching its end as your body is getting more adapted to the diet, that should be the time to cut down a bit on the bodyfat. That way you will have spent say 4-5 years extremely productively from a physical perspective, and hit two birds with one stone. That is what I would call a proper body transformation.

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      @Chill it doesn’t destroy your hormones. Aim for 30%

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        I can't say you are essentially wrong about women being attracted to high test etc etc but do you even know why gaining weight is important for modern humans?

        Enjoy the raw milk and get healthy!

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        • ChillC Chill

          @jay
          I dont really know if you should get obese, as that term can vary by some standards. Some people use BMI, others use bodyfat % and even then it can change. For example you will find folks claiming 25%+ bodyfat is obese, others will say 30%+. Anyhow, the reason for putting on fat on this diet is simply that it helps with the detox. I will explain down below.

          Detox is short for detoxification, which is when your body is getting rid of toxins. As you will know toxins are stored in the fat. This is exactly why raw butter is so important on the diet. On top of it being so nutrisous, and so dense in energy, the most overlooked aspect of it is that its a fat source without toxins. Bone marrow and other animal fats are extremly nutrisous aswell, but thats where the toxins are stored, so you risk getting sick if you eat them unless they are cooked or your body is well adapted. Just like animals store toxins in their fat, we humans store toxins in our fat, so the more fat you carry on you, the better your body can handle the detoxification and just be more secure in general.

          One more thing I want to add, again I will assume that you are still developing just like me and hopefully working out aswell. In that case, take this opportunity to put on some fat, not to the point where it destroys your hormones, but enough so that you can go on a generational bulk, gain a lot of muscle, and handle the detox well.
          Detoxing and building a great physique both take years to complete. So say you build a lot of muscle, and the detox is approaching its end as your body is getting more adapted to the diet, that should be the time to cut down a bit on the bodyfat. That way you will have spent say 4-5 years extremely productively from a physical perspective, and hit two birds with one stone. That is what I would call a proper body transformation.

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          @Chill okay so the toxins are stored in the fat. And what now. When you use the fat for energy it will get released anyway. It’s the same reason people who eat seed oils can’t lose weight bc their body doesn’t want to toxins to be released or at least not quickly.

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          • LiverloverL Liverlover

            @Chill okay so the toxins are stored in the fat. And what now. When you use the fat for energy it will get released anyway. It’s the same reason people who eat seed oils can’t lose weight bc their body doesn’t want to toxins to be released or at least not quickly.

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            @Liverlover the fat escorts the toxins out, but it’s not very efficient and that’s why cheese trains are groundbreaking

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            • Elliott87E Elliott87

              @Chill it doesn’t destroy your hormones. Aim for 30%

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              @Elliott87 Yea but do you want to be at 30%? thats the question

              I mean have you seen Roms physique? he looks like a legit 30% and he's been on the primal diet for 8 years!
              20260517_235914(1).jpg

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                @Elliott87 Yea but do you want to be at 30%? thats the question

                I mean have you seen Roms physique? he looks like a legit 30% and he's been on the primal diet for 8 years!
                20260517_235914(1).jpg

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                @Jay lol he had a lot of water retention, also 120kg at 5”11

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                • Elliott87E Elliott87

                  @Jay lol he had a lot of water retention, also 120kg at 5”11

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                  @Elliott87 Yeah man i get ya, but i just don't believe he's happy at that weight but more important whether he actually wants to look like that (body image)

                  I guess that's just my personal incredulity fallacy & it's not really based on the face that his physique can store more toxins than ours.

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                    @Elliott87 Yeah man i get ya, but i just don't believe he's happy at that weight but more important whether he actually wants to look like that (body image)

                    I guess that's just my personal incredulity fallacy & it's not really based on the face that his physique can store more toxins than ours.

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                    @Jay the fatter you are the better u feel lol, yk fat and jolly? Although these days because of seed oils the fat people are not fat and jolly

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                    • Elliott87E Elliott87

                      @Liverlover the fat escorts the toxins out, but it’s not very efficient and that’s why cheese trains are groundbreaking

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                      @Elliott87 very true cheese trains are super important

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                      • LiverloverL Liverlover

                        @Chill okay so the toxins are stored in the fat. And what now. When you use the fat for energy it will get released anyway. It’s the same reason people who eat seed oils can’t lose weight bc their body doesn’t want to toxins to be released or at least not quickly.

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                        @Liverlover
                        well it helps "soften" the detox. I dont know about you but most of us dont want to feel like we got hit by a mack truck when detoxing.
                        And thats not why those people dont lose people, its not becausd seed oils are magically preventing you from losing weight. Weight loss comes down do calories in vs calories out. You could get 5 % bodyfat with seed oils believe it or not. Its just that seed oils are snuck into all kinds of garbage high calorie junk foods, and thus people who eat those foods get overweight or obese. Its because of an extreme overconsumption of calories over a long period of time. Then of course seed oils can be addicting or atleast the food they are put into, aswell as their inflammatory nature might slow down metabolism, they are also very calorie dense. But at the end of the day its calories in vs calories out, and not the explanation you gave.

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                        • ChillC Chill

                          @Liverlover
                          well it helps "soften" the detox. I dont know about you but most of us dont want to feel like we got hit by a mack truck when detoxing.
                          And thats not why those people dont lose people, its not becausd seed oils are magically preventing you from losing weight. Weight loss comes down do calories in vs calories out. You could get 5 % bodyfat with seed oils believe it or not. Its just that seed oils are snuck into all kinds of garbage high calorie junk foods, and thus people who eat those foods get overweight or obese. Its because of an extreme overconsumption of calories over a long period of time. Then of course seed oils can be addicting or atleast the food they are put into, aswell as their inflammatory nature might slow down metabolism, they are also very calorie dense. But at the end of the day its calories in vs calories out, and not the explanation you gave.

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                          @Chill yeahh i agree but wouldn’t you agree people who eat junk food are so toxic their body is literally afraid of burning the fat bc the toxins in there?

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                          • LiverloverL Liverlover

                            @Chill yeahh i agree but wouldn’t you agree people who eat junk food are so toxic their body is literally afraid of burning the fat bc the toxins in there?

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                            @Liverlover i wouldnt agree tbh. Fat loss comes down burning more enrgy than you consume. Thats it, doesnt get more complicated than that. Certain diets and food might slow down metabolism but that is only a problem since you burn less energy, which leads us back to my point: calories in vs calories out.

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                            • ChillC Chill

                              @Liverlover i wouldnt agree tbh. Fat loss comes down burning more enrgy than you consume. Thats it, doesnt get more complicated than that. Certain diets and food might slow down metabolism but that is only a problem since you burn less energy, which leads us back to my point: calories in vs calories out.

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                              @Chill right but your body can still control your intuition by strongly resisting the deficit, so hunger. If it knows burning bodyfat releases toxins it might try to keep you in a surplus so it doesn’t have to face that

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