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These drugs mess with your brain, I do understand that looks make a big part of life nowadays but pinning is just useless (except if you are actually not producing enough of one hormone) and won't get you far.
There are many natural ways of boosting testosterone, human growth hormone and all these other hormones. You just have to dig up a lot into the internet to find these good methods. If you want I can share some.
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I see so many people fear mongering the use of things like exogenous testosterone, hgh, fgfr3 inhibitors, etc. for reaching potential in puberty because it's "not healthy," but that only applies when you've developed properly and have been eating a primal diet since birth along with your parents and grandparents. If you were raised on goyslop using hormones is the safest and easiest way to fix your development. They are BIOIDENTICAL, meaning that its the exact same as what your body would make. There's no difference and theres no reason there'd be any side effects when its the same thing your body makes. A life being a vibrantly healthy well-developed chad is better than a life being a 0.1% healthier poorly developed ltn. We have countless studies showing benefits of long term trt or high dose testosterone or high dose exogenous hgh in normal children in males and there are zero side effects of test, hgh or even tren if the proper ancillaries and post-cycle therapies are used. It's just fearmongering from jealous people who were too late to the party and cant fix their development anymore.
@Vibrance-ᛉ if you have to debate this in your head you are retarded. DO NOT TAKE STEROIDS. Have some faith in the diet and don’t resort to testosterone which is literally derived from soy. You’ll be fucking up your natural test and could possibly go temporarily infertile, what part of that sounds good to you
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When you inject something you are injecting 1 factor out of thousands that go into good development. For this factor to even work fully, it requires certain conditions that are only achieved achieving this factor through natural means and in combination with other factors. Good results come naturally.
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@Vibrance-ᛉ
I got fed slop until i was 13 i eat primal since then, im also rlly tall the only thing bad is my skin and bone mass. So it wouldn’t be bad to pin?@rawPrimalBube1 no not at all trust me i did it and i have no regrets
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@Vibrance-ᛉ if you have to debate this in your head you are retarded. DO NOT TAKE STEROIDS. Have some faith in the diet and don’t resort to testosterone which is literally derived from soy. You’ll be fucking up your natural test and could possibly go temporarily infertile, what part of that sounds good to you
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When you inject something you are injecting 1 factor out of thousands that go into good development. For this factor to even work fully, it requires certain conditions that are only achieved achieving this factor through natural means and in combination with other factors. Good results come naturally.
@Elliott87 diet does not do anything close to what hormones can and not at the same speed and not at later stages of puberty
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Also test does have many side effects such as increased red blood cell count, acne, fertility suppression, and effects on the prostate or cardiovascular system in some people.
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@veloman yeah except nobody cares about fertility when on cycle that's not the point and if you want to be fertile use a proper post-cycle therapy. didnt even address the hgh part
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@rawPrimalBube1 no not at all trust me i did it and i have no regrets
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@rawPrimalBube1 no not at all trust me i did it and i have no regrets
@Vibrance-ᛉ bro are you actually 14 as your profile says, if so you barely gave your own hormones a chance dude. Let puberty do its thing man.
Many of those studies show benefits since the people taking the substances where WAY, WAY underdeveloped. So its not that they "gain" its that the "compensate" for whatever they lost because of some disease or whatever.
The diet for sure has amazing benefits but roids are a completely different game than this, you could have your entire fathers and entire mothers linage eating rawprimal, and eating rawprimal in the first second third trimester whilst you where still developing, and eating rawprimal as you grew up, but the benefits would be overshadowed from what you could gain from roids, that is only for certain things like muscle mass tho. For health the diet is miles ahead ofc, but your idea/reasoning that "yeah bro we take rois because we didnt have a chance at rawprimal since birth" is just an awful excuse to pin needles in yo cheeks and shoulders. -
@Vibrance-ᛉ bro are you actually 14 as your profile says, if so you barely gave your own hormones a chance dude. Let puberty do its thing man.
Many of those studies show benefits since the people taking the substances where WAY, WAY underdeveloped. So its not that they "gain" its that the "compensate" for whatever they lost because of some disease or whatever.
The diet for sure has amazing benefits but roids are a completely different game than this, you could have your entire fathers and entire mothers linage eating rawprimal, and eating rawprimal in the first second third trimester whilst you where still developing, and eating rawprimal as you grew up, but the benefits would be overshadowed from what you could gain from roids, that is only for certain things like muscle mass tho. For health the diet is miles ahead ofc, but your idea/reasoning that "yeah bro we take rois because we didnt have a chance at rawprimal since birth" is just an awful excuse to pin needles in yo cheeks and shoulders. -
@Vibrance-ᛉ ‘nobody cares about fertility when on cycle’ can you hear yourself speak. You are messing with one of the most important aspects of your life (having children) also link the studies about the kids on cycle
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Can you give me more infos?
@rawPrimalBube1 dm me any questions
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@Vibrance-ᛉ bro are you actually 14 as your profile says, if so you barely gave your own hormones a chance dude. Let puberty do its thing man.
Many of those studies show benefits since the people taking the substances where WAY, WAY underdeveloped. So its not that they "gain" its that the "compensate" for whatever they lost because of some disease or whatever.
The diet for sure has amazing benefits but roids are a completely different game than this, you could have your entire fathers and entire mothers linage eating rawprimal, and eating rawprimal in the first second third trimester whilst you where still developing, and eating rawprimal as you grew up, but the benefits would be overshadowed from what you could gain from roids, that is only for certain things like muscle mass tho. For health the diet is miles ahead ofc, but your idea/reasoning that "yeah bro we take rois because we didnt have a chance at rawprimal since birth" is just an awful excuse to pin needles in yo cheeks and shoulders.@Chill if we were on primal for our whole lineage obviously we wouldn't need to pin but obviously we need to. Do you know how unhealthy kids are? They're eating fucking goyslop every meal every day. Spend a day with some teenagers all they eat is utter garbage. Even if they go primal for a couple years, stuff like test or hgh will help them get closer to what they would have had with a whole lineage on the primal diet
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Just drink raw milk silly billy
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@Elliott87 diet does not do anything close to what hormones can and not at the same speed and not at later stages of puberty
@Vibrance-ᛉ Niggas will eat 1 piece of raw cold dead sterile supermarket meat. Nothing happens then say bullshit like this
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@veloman im saying no one goes on steroids then tries to conceive. They go off roids and ontona post cycle therapy which repairs ability to have kids 100% and no problems are had
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@Chill if we were on primal for our whole lineage obviously we wouldn't need to pin but obviously we need to. Do you know how unhealthy kids are? They're eating fucking goyslop every meal every day. Spend a day with some teenagers all they eat is utter garbage. Even if they go primal for a couple years, stuff like test or hgh will help them get closer to what they would have had with a whole lineage on the primal diet
@Vibrance-ᛉ did you even read my reply dude. the idea that you have which is that since your werent primal since birth steroids help you compensate is wrong. Are you out of your mind dude? What is the primal diet if i may ask? Its the most optimal, perhaps even the most natural way to eat. Roids are completely unnatural, and thus they will give you unnatural results. If this was 25 000 years ago or whatever, and you ate something similar to raw primal, you still wouldnt achieve what the roids gave you are you actually out of your mind dude. I wanna be respectful with you but your logic is failing. Steroids are completely exogenous your literally not compensating for anything. I kinda see what your trying to say but again, you didnt even give your puberty a chance dawg.
And a question. you grew 10 inches in 2 years of puberty + hgh? What was your starting height and what is your height now? How did you measure your bone growth did you just "see" yourself getting denser. Can you message any images if you dont mind?
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@Vibrance-ᛉ did you even read my reply dude. the idea that you have which is that since your werent primal since birth steroids help you compensate is wrong. Are you out of your mind dude? What is the primal diet if i may ask? Its the most optimal, perhaps even the most natural way to eat. Roids are completely unnatural, and thus they will give you unnatural results. If this was 25 000 years ago or whatever, and you ate something similar to raw primal, you still wouldnt achieve what the roids gave you are you actually out of your mind dude. I wanna be respectful with you but your logic is failing. Steroids are completely exogenous your literally not compensating for anything. I kinda see what your trying to say but again, you didnt even give your puberty a chance dawg.
And a question. you grew 10 inches in 2 years of puberty + hgh? What was your starting height and what is your height now? How did you measure your bone growth did you just "see" yourself getting denser. Can you message any images if you dont mind?
- I'm not talking about primal diet being as good for muscle growth im talking about it being as good for bone growth. Of course its gonna be worse for muscle growth but im talking about exogenous hormones used to fix your recessed narrow skull, frame, and height. Of course its not natural but with proper setup its not any detriment to health
- I grew from 5'0 to 5'10 and im still growing. Sure it might have been puberty but the growth started the moment I started gh when you see it on a graph and the doctors said my bone age was 15 when I was 13 meaning I didn't technically have much growth left. I cant share pictures of myself, but from my side profile with ears aligned or front profile with eyes aligned, I had tons of forward growth especially my maxilla brow ridge and mandible and from the front my lower third grew and my zygos grew a ton as well
