Raw Milk from not-fully grass-fed cows fine?
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As the title says, is it fine to drink raw milk from cows that aren't fully grass-fed? I have tried searching all over my place but not a single farmer has cows that are 95% grass-fed, its usually paddy straw (or rice straw) and grass.
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@wol.ety would be better if you found some fully grass fed obviously, but the source you have now is better than nothing and is still beneficial
@veloman I see, well the reason I even asked this question at the first place is because the Aajonus AI (grok-based, not sure if its reliable at all, especially in this case) says it is better not consume than consuming milk from grain-fed cows.
The message from Aajonus AI:
Raw milk from non-fully grass-fed cows is bad because the feed (grain, soy, corn, concentrates, straw) directly degrades every healing property that makes raw milk valuable on primal.
Core problems:
Massively lower fat-soluble vitamins
Grain/straw feed slashes vitamin A (retinol), D, E, K2 by 50–90% compared to pasture/hay-only. These are destroyed in confinement systems. You lose the Wulzen factor (anti-stiffness) and true retinol for hormone/bone/eye repair.
Wrong fatty acid profile
High omega-6 (from corn/soy), low omega-3 and CLA. Creates inflammation, poor membrane repair, and lipid peroxides in the milk fat. Primal needs anti-inflammatory fats; this delivers the opposite.
Toxin concentration
Grains carry pesticides, glyphosate, mycotoxins, GMO residues → these bioaccumulate in the cow's fat and milk fat. You ingest concentrated industrial poisons instead of detox support.
Poor nutrient bioavailability
Lower enzymes, weaker cream separation, thinner fat globules → harder to digest, less detox binding, poorer hormone precursor delivery (cholesterol quality drops).
Estrogenic skew
Soy in feed raises phytoestrogens → milk carries estrogen-like compounds that disrupt your own balance (worse for height, detox, hormone-driven growth).
Practical impact on primal goals:
Detox slows or stalls (toxins in, fewer binding fats out).
Hormone synthesis weakens (low cholesterol/retinol for GH/IGF-1, testosterone).
Height potential capped (missing retinol/zinc cofactors for growth plates).
Inflammation rises (omega-6 excess) instead of dropping.
Bottom line:
Non-grass-fed raw milk is closer to a mild toxin delivery vehicle than a healing food. Better to skip it entirely and double yolks (cholesterol), liver (retinol/zinc/copper), pork fat (volume) than drink compromised milk.Alongside health, my first priority (currently) is to maximize my height since my growth plates aren't fully fused, and I heard raw milk is one of the best thing you should consume to maximize height. So, again, its fine to drink raw milk from cows that aren't fully grass-fed?
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@veloman I see, well the reason I even asked this question at the first place is because the Aajonus AI (grok-based, not sure if its reliable at all, especially in this case) says it is better not consume than consuming milk from grain-fed cows.
The message from Aajonus AI:
Raw milk from non-fully grass-fed cows is bad because the feed (grain, soy, corn, concentrates, straw) directly degrades every healing property that makes raw milk valuable on primal.
Core problems:
Massively lower fat-soluble vitamins
Grain/straw feed slashes vitamin A (retinol), D, E, K2 by 50–90% compared to pasture/hay-only. These are destroyed in confinement systems. You lose the Wulzen factor (anti-stiffness) and true retinol for hormone/bone/eye repair.
Wrong fatty acid profile
High omega-6 (from corn/soy), low omega-3 and CLA. Creates inflammation, poor membrane repair, and lipid peroxides in the milk fat. Primal needs anti-inflammatory fats; this delivers the opposite.
Toxin concentration
Grains carry pesticides, glyphosate, mycotoxins, GMO residues → these bioaccumulate in the cow's fat and milk fat. You ingest concentrated industrial poisons instead of detox support.
Poor nutrient bioavailability
Lower enzymes, weaker cream separation, thinner fat globules → harder to digest, less detox binding, poorer hormone precursor delivery (cholesterol quality drops).
Estrogenic skew
Soy in feed raises phytoestrogens → milk carries estrogen-like compounds that disrupt your own balance (worse for height, detox, hormone-driven growth).
Practical impact on primal goals:
Detox slows or stalls (toxins in, fewer binding fats out).
Hormone synthesis weakens (low cholesterol/retinol for GH/IGF-1, testosterone).
Height potential capped (missing retinol/zinc cofactors for growth plates).
Inflammation rises (omega-6 excess) instead of dropping.
Bottom line:
Non-grass-fed raw milk is closer to a mild toxin delivery vehicle than a healing food. Better to skip it entirely and double yolks (cholesterol), liver (retinol/zinc/copper), pork fat (volume) than drink compromised milk.Alongside health, my first priority (currently) is to maximize my height since my growth plates aren't fully fused, and I heard raw milk is one of the best thing you should consume to maximize height. So, again, its fine to drink raw milk from cows that aren't fully grass-fed?
@wol.ety The AI gives false information, I should disable it lol, its overstated by a lot. I mean grass fed milk is better than grain fed but still its not toxic highly, but it is worse of course as cows should eat grass.
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@wol.ety The AI gives false information, I should disable it lol, its overstated by a lot. I mean grass fed milk is better than grain fed but still its not toxic highly, but it is worse of course as cows should eat grass.
@Rabbi as I mentioned that I'm currently keeping maximizing my height in the top priority, so what do you recommend? Should I keep drinking it or stop?
About the AI, don't disable it. It sure overstates but I think it is really useful to get information regarding these topics instantly instead of searching all over the internet or .org
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@Rabbi as I mentioned that I'm currently keeping maximizing my height in the top priority, so what do you recommend? Should I keep drinking it or stop?
About the AI, don't disable it. It sure overstates but I think it is really useful to get information regarding these topics instantly instead of searching all over the internet or .org
@wol.ety okay sure I wont, but i recommend drink a lot raw milk and eat a lot raw meat and then some raw liver consistently to maximize growth.
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@veloman I see, well the reason I even asked this question at the first place is because the Aajonus AI (grok-based, not sure if its reliable at all, especially in this case) says it is better not consume than consuming milk from grain-fed cows.
The message from Aajonus AI:
Raw milk from non-fully grass-fed cows is bad because the feed (grain, soy, corn, concentrates, straw) directly degrades every healing property that makes raw milk valuable on primal.
Core problems:
Massively lower fat-soluble vitamins
Grain/straw feed slashes vitamin A (retinol), D, E, K2 by 50–90% compared to pasture/hay-only. These are destroyed in confinement systems. You lose the Wulzen factor (anti-stiffness) and true retinol for hormone/bone/eye repair.
Wrong fatty acid profile
High omega-6 (from corn/soy), low omega-3 and CLA. Creates inflammation, poor membrane repair, and lipid peroxides in the milk fat. Primal needs anti-inflammatory fats; this delivers the opposite.
Toxin concentration
Grains carry pesticides, glyphosate, mycotoxins, GMO residues → these bioaccumulate in the cow's fat and milk fat. You ingest concentrated industrial poisons instead of detox support.
Poor nutrient bioavailability
Lower enzymes, weaker cream separation, thinner fat globules → harder to digest, less detox binding, poorer hormone precursor delivery (cholesterol quality drops).
Estrogenic skew
Soy in feed raises phytoestrogens → milk carries estrogen-like compounds that disrupt your own balance (worse for height, detox, hormone-driven growth).
Practical impact on primal goals:
Detox slows or stalls (toxins in, fewer binding fats out).
Hormone synthesis weakens (low cholesterol/retinol for GH/IGF-1, testosterone).
Height potential capped (missing retinol/zinc cofactors for growth plates).
Inflammation rises (omega-6 excess) instead of dropping.
Bottom line:
Non-grass-fed raw milk is closer to a mild toxin delivery vehicle than a healing food. Better to skip it entirely and double yolks (cholesterol), liver (retinol/zinc/copper), pork fat (volume) than drink compromised milk.Alongside health, my first priority (currently) is to maximize my height since my growth plates aren't fully fused, and I heard raw milk is one of the best thing you should consume to maximize height. So, again, its fine to drink raw milk from cows that aren't fully grass-fed?
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