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  • L liverman12

    @Bert how long ago did you have it.
    also how does therapy change bone structure?

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    @liverman12 A few months ago. The goal is basically to restore the normal functions of your tongue like resting position and swallow pattern. Unlike what most people think that you just have to mew and that it’s just a matter of paying attention to it, it doesn’t work like that. Just like posture it’s a muscle imbalance built over years so no matter how much you think to sit straight you will always revert back. Posture is not just forward head or rounded shoulders. It starts at your feet and ends in your tongue and neck. So to fix the imbalance you have to train the entire chain of weakened muscles. And as we know the tongue resting correctly is what drives facial development.

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      @liverman12 A few months ago. The goal is basically to restore the normal functions of your tongue like resting position and swallow pattern. Unlike what most people think that you just have to mew and that it’s just a matter of paying attention to it, it doesn’t work like that. Just like posture it’s a muscle imbalance built over years so no matter how much you think to sit straight you will always revert back. Posture is not just forward head or rounded shoulders. It starts at your feet and ends in your tongue and neck. So to fix the imbalance you have to train the entire chain of weakened muscles. And as we know the tongue resting correctly is what drives facial development.

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      @Bert nutrients drives facial development, the tongue is the symptom not cause

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      • F foidkiller1488

        @Bert nutrients drives facial development, the tongue is the symptom not cause

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        @foidkiller1488 no

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          Retainers are for Slaves

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          • LiverloverL Liverlover

            @foidkiller1488 no

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            @Bert It does bro, the elites just want us to think it’s habits

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            • F foidkiller1488

              @Bert It does bro, the elites just want us to think it’s habits

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              @foidkiller1488 It’s a combination bro. They go hand in hand. If you got breastfed long enough you’re tongue will be strong enough from swallowing and chewing hard food strengtens the tongue as well. No amount of raw meat will save a child if they don’t have good oral posture (which is influenced by body posture). All attractive people had good posture during development. You can also tell by the way someone walks. Sometimes their posture got worse after development but you can see the remains.

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                @foidkiller1488 It’s a combination bro. They go hand in hand. If you got breastfed long enough you’re tongue will be strong enough from swallowing and chewing hard food strengtens the tongue as well. No amount of raw meat will save a child if they don’t have good oral posture (which is influenced by body posture). All attractive people had good posture during development. You can also tell by the way someone walks. Sometimes their posture got worse after development but you can see the remains.

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                Health is looks and posture is health (sleep apnea and chronic stress are good examples)

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                • LiverloverL Liverlover

                  Health is looks and posture is health (sleep apnea and chronic stress are good examples)

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                  @Bert jester patel ahh take

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                  • elliott88E elliott88

                    @Bert jester patel ahh take

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                    @elliott88 thumb pull=health

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                    • elliott88E elliott88

                      @Bert jester patel ahh take

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                      @elliott88 hahah but he’s actually right about a lot of things. Study goata movement and look at the faces of people who move like that and come back.

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                      • LiverloverL Liverlover

                        @foidkiller1488 It’s a combination bro. They go hand in hand. If you got breastfed long enough you’re tongue will be strong enough from swallowing and chewing hard food strengtens the tongue as well. No amount of raw meat will save a child if they don’t have good oral posture (which is influenced by body posture). All attractive people had good posture during development. You can also tell by the way someone walks. Sometimes their posture got worse after development but you can see the remains.

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                        @Bert did they have a good face and good posture because they had good nutrition? Or do they have a good face from posture?

                        Aajonus said bad posture is caused by malnutrition and toxins.

                        The tongue stuff is not true, because if the palate didn’t expand (from nutrients) the tongue wouldn’t have space to sit there. It’s the symptoms not the cause

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                          @Bert did they have a good face and good posture because they had good nutrition? Or do they have a good face from posture?

                          Aajonus said bad posture is caused by malnutrition and toxins.

                          The tongue stuff is not true, because if the palate didn’t expand (from nutrients) the tongue wouldn’t have space to sit there. It’s the symptoms not the cause

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                          @foidkiller1488 Well aajonus wasn’t right about everything bro. Bad posture is caused by muscle imbalance which is caused by chairs and modern footwear. Has nothing to do with nutrition. How will bad food cause your glutes to become weak and hip flexors tight? Obviously from sitting in chairs all day which basically turns off your glutes and keeping the hip flexors in a 90 degree angle will tighten them. The shoes will also ruin your natural foot functions and strength and the imbalance will translate up the chain since your feet are the base of your body.

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                            @Bert did they have a good face and good posture because they had good nutrition? Or do they have a good face from posture?

                            Aajonus said bad posture is caused by malnutrition and toxins.

                            The tongue stuff is not true, because if the palate didn’t expand (from nutrients) the tongue wouldn’t have space to sit there. It’s the symptoms not the cause

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                            @foidkiller1488 I also partly agree if you have horrible oral posture from not chewing proper food it will translate downwards as well but chairs and shoes are the main factors

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                              @foidkiller1488 Well aajonus wasn’t right about everything bro. Bad posture is caused by muscle imbalance which is caused by chairs and modern footwear. Has nothing to do with nutrition. How will bad food cause your glutes to become weak and hip flexors tight? Obviously from sitting in chairs all day which basically turns off your glutes and keeping the hip flexors in a 90 degree angle will tighten them. The shoes will also ruin your natural foot functions and strength and the imbalance will translate up the chain since your feet are the base of your body.

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                              @Bert toxins in muscles make it tight. Explain this? If all the habits was true then how is this possible lol.
                              https://youtube.com/shorts/s95zwInzb_E?si=aZLXEYkPf5xACeDC

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                                @Bert toxins in muscles make it tight. Explain this? If all the habits was true then how is this possible lol.
                                https://youtube.com/shorts/s95zwInzb_E?si=aZLXEYkPf5xACeDC

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                                @foidkiller1488 According to your logic he would have eaten good food so his face developed but his posture should’ve also been good. I suspect this guy had good posture during development and now he messed it up bc his autistic ass is probably sitting around all day. He looks like in his mid 20s so it’s very possible. Your explaination doesn’t make sense how tf is toxins gonna make certainn muscles tight and overdeveloped and certain muscles weak.

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                                  @foidkiller1488 According to your logic he would have eaten good food so his face developed but his posture should’ve also been good. I suspect this guy had good posture during development and now he messed it up bc his autistic ass is probably sitting around all day. He looks like in his mid 20s so it’s very possible. Your explaination doesn’t make sense how tf is toxins gonna make certainn muscles tight and overdeveloped and certain muscles weak.

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                                  @Bert I’m tryna show that posture doesn’t mean anything. It seems most of the toxins went to his brain lol

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                                    @foidkiller1488 According to your logic he would have eaten good food so his face developed but his posture should’ve also been good. I suspect this guy had good posture during development and now he messed it up bc his autistic ass is probably sitting around all day. He looks like in his mid 20s so it’s very possible. Your explaination doesn’t make sense how tf is toxins gonna make certainn muscles tight and overdeveloped and certain muscles weak.

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                                    @Bert I wasn’t being clear mb. Poor posture is from toxins, they irritate the muscle or nerve in that area causing it to contract. That’s why most people even after intense physio always end up reverting to their cooked posture

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                                      @Bert I wasn’t being clear mb. Poor posture is from toxins, they irritate the muscle or nerve in that area causing it to contract. That’s why most people even after intense physio always end up reverting to their cooked posture

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                                      @foidkiller1488 Yeah but why does it do that to the chest and not upperback muscles (rounded shoulders) or neck flexors and not extensors. People revert because to actually fix posture you need years of consistent exercises I speak from experience.

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                                        @Bert I’m tryna show that posture doesn’t mean anything. It seems most of the toxins went to his brain lol

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                                        @foidkiller1488 Too many seeds probably 😂. From nature’s perspective a failed human being

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