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  • ULTIMATE CRAVINGS MAP - NEVER CHEAT AGAIN
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    Format will be Food->What you really crave->Foods you should have instead x/y/z

    Candy->Enzymes and Quick Energy->Raw unheated honey with butter/cream and honey/straight honey/dates, or any combination of the above

    Chocolate->Magnesium, copper, minerals, and fat->Raw liver cubes coated with cream and honey/Hard raw cheese with honey/Refrigerated Nut formula with raw cacao powder and extra honey/Dates with Butter + Honey (honey optional)

    Ice cream->Dairy fat, calcium, cooling nourishment->Aajonus' ice cream recipe/Raw milkshake/raw milk/cream-and-honey mixtures/butter and honey

    Cake/pastries/baked goods->Dense calories, fat, and enzymes->Aajonus cheesecake recipe/nut formula, either one sweetened with as much honey as you want

    Cookies->Doughy fat plus sweetness->Dates + butter/Nut Formula/Cheesecake

    Bread->Minerals, comfort, stable energy->Warm raw cheese/avocado/meat/tomato

    Chips/Cheetos/Takis/Doritos/etc.->Salt, minerals, crunchy texture->Hard raw cheese, celery with raw butter, tomatoes with avocado, or any combination of the above

    French fries->Fat and salt->Warmed raw butter, raw cream, avocado, hard raw cheese, fatty meat, or any combination of the above

    Pizza->Fat, cheese, meat->Warmed raw cheese, raw meat, tomatoes, herbs, or any combination of the above

    Burgers->Meat, fat, iron->Slightly warmed raw cheese, steak or ground beef, and raw cheese and tomatoes,

    Bacon->Fat and minerals->warmed fatty raw meat, marrow, raw butter, hard raw cheese, tomato, or any combination of the above

    Fried foods->Fat and calories->Warmed raw butter, cream, marrow, fatty meat, cheese, or any combination of the above

    Soda->Quick glucose and stimulation->Raw milk with honey, fresh fruit with cream, or fruit juice

    Coffee->Adrenal support and energy->Eggs, raw milk, raw cream, honey, or any combo of the above

    Alcohol->Relaxation and mineral depletion->Lubrication formulas and rest

    Salty snacks->Sodium and trace minerals->Celery, tomatoes, hard raw cheeses, mineral-rich foods, or any combination of the above

    Crunchy snacks->Oral stimulation->Celery, hard raw cheeses, cucumber, tomatoes or carrots with butter or cheese, or any combination of the above


  • HOW TO GET RID OF SEED OILS IN 1 YEAR OR LESS (NOT HOT BATHS, JUST GET FAT ASF)
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    LA is what we all want out of our systems. It's what's in us because of seed oils, and the thing people always say to do is to do lymphatic baths or hot baths or whatever you call them and to do them frequently, but that's not how it works. The half-life of la in your fat is about 2 years, meaning it takes 4-5 years of eating zero la-dominant fat sources to get it out of your system. Eating the average american diet, your bodyfat is 25% linoleic acid, we want <7%. When you burn adipose tissue (fat), the lionleic acid (and any other acids there) are burned and whatever your new diet is (hopefully stearic acid and oleic acid) will replace it. The other way of doing it is aggressive cuts/bulks constantly to change fat stores and speed up the process, but this can be very damaging metabolically. An argument for the hot baths is that you'll sweat out the fat, but fat is lost through your breath in the form of carbon dioxide but you sweat out water and electrolytes. A more realistic solution is to follow the primal diet and get super fat (35%+ bodyfat but you'll look less than 20% cause healthier fat distribution) and then go on a long cut while eating strictly no plant fats ever except for coconut if you must, meaning no nuts either.
    Here is a demonstration of how a massive bulk and cut would get rid of your sed oils, assuming person was on the SAD (which is seed oil heavy) until age of 20.

    Assumptions

    • Starting point (age 20):
    • Height: 5'9"
    • Weight: 150 lb (68.0 kg)
    • Body fat: 15%
    • Fat mass: 22.5 lb (10.2 kg)
      After bulk:
    • Weight: 200 lb
    • High-fat animal-based diet (300+ g fat/day)
    • Assume most gained weight is fat plus some muscle.
      After cut:
    • Weight: 158 lb
    • Net muscle gain: 8 lb (conservative estimate due to the diet + maybe some exercise)
      Final fat mass:
    • Lean mass = 127.5 + 8 = 135.5 lb
    • Fat mass = 158 − 135.5 = 22.5 lb
      Fat gained during the bulk:
      If:
    • 50 lb total gained
    • 8 lb is retained muscle
    • About 42 lb (19.1 kg) is fat gained
    • Fat lost during the cut
    • The person returns to the original fat mass, so approximately 42 lb of fat is also lost.
      Fatty acid composition
      Typical adipose tissue on a Western diet:
    • Linoleic acid (omega-6 PUFA): ~15–25%
    • Saturated fat: ~20–30%
    • Monounsaturated fat: ~45–55%
      Let's use representative values:
      Initial stored fat:
    • 20% PUFA
    • 25% SFA
    • 55% MUFA
      New fat stores while eating a very low-PUFA animal-based diet might look more like:
    • 2–5% PUFA
    • 35–45% SFA
    • 50–60% MUFA
      (which is incredibly ideal)

    If you were wondering, mufa is higher than sfa even though our diet is more sfa because sfa converts to mufa

    Even further on, getting fat and cutting is such a good way to do it because since pufa-heavy cell membranes are so fluid, they are way more readily available for lipolysis (fat burning) and will clear faster.

    FAT AND CUT IS LAW

    So, there. In what would probably be 6 months to a year of a big bulk and a big cut you have successfully gotten the seed oils of out you 4-10x faster than if you maintained weight and did the diet normally. Now, I am not saying that lymphatic baths are bad and serve no purpose, they just will not work for getting rid of pufa.


  • Guide to CARBS on the Primal Diet (Fruit, honey, dairy, starches, etc.)
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    The fruit you eat is very important to consider for your health, much more so than you think.

    This guide will encompass:
    - How much to eat
    - Which ones to eat (very important)
    - How and when to eat them

    HOW MUCH TO EAT
    This is heavily debated. There are three general camps:

    • People like FaceIQ who think you should be getting over 300g of carbs from fruit every single day and drink fruit juice and whatnot
    • Primal Dieters (Aaj) who believe fruit shouldnt be a centerpiece of the diet but can absolutely be a part of it
    • People like Rawtard who think you should eat zero carb and absolutely no fruits.

    When it comes down to it, fruit is delicious, and we all love it. That enough should tell you that, and we should listen to our senses. However, overeating fruit is definitely possible and definitely a problem.

    We dont want to be in Ketosis or Glycolysis, we want to be in a mix. Half and half. When you eat a ton of fruit, you dont get the neurological benefits of ketones along with the other benefits of ketosis, and when eating zero carbs you dont get the benefits of glycogen and being in glycolysis.

    For the general population, 50-150g carbs derived from fruit, honey, lactose, or starches per day while on a high raw fat diet with 250g+ per day is the range where people will be healthiest. That would be 3 bananas, 2.5 cups cooked white rice, 1L orange juice, 180g honey, or 3L raw milk. Each of those things has 100-150g carbohydrates.

    Can you eat more than 150g of carbs? Absolutely, and some people may experience that they feel better that way, but for many people, it will cause hyperactivity.

    However, there are exceptions. Times I would recommend a zero carb raw carnivore diet (with inclusion of some fermented meat) would be when somebody has any of these conditions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nMC4NwXRUJgQrYjhVSZfpUhZAJ25bS8h0BNBYX4aEhQ/edit?tab=t.0

    Which ones to eat
    This is THE most important. More so than how much you eat or how you eat it.

    Your health will be completely different if youre eating pesticide ridden things dense with toxins compared to if youre eating high quality low pesticide foods with fewer toxins.

    The fruits with often the most pesticides include (according to dirty dozen):

    • Spinach
    • Strawberries
    • Kale, Collard, and Mustard Greens
    • Grapes
    • Peaches
    • Cherries
    • Pears
    • Nectarines
    • Apples
    • Bell and Hot Peppers
    • Blueberries
    • Green Beans

    And the ones with the fewest (clean fifteen) are:

    • Honey
    • Pineapple
    • Sweet Corn
    • Avocados
    • Papaya
    • Onions
    • Sweet Peas (Frozen)
    • Asparagus
    • Cabbage
    • Watermelon
    • Mushrooms
    • Mangoes
    • Kiwis
    • Bananas
    • Carrots
    • Cauliflower

    However, I must insist you avoid ALL botanical vegetables, grains, legumes, mushrooms, etc.
    The only exception is made for the very occasional potato. You will literally only detriment from consuming vegetables 99.99999999% of the time.

    Of the clean fifteen (and more), the best carbs in no particular order would be honey, dairy, pineapple, papaya, watermelon, and mangoes.

    Despite the reputation in the community for pineapples and papaya having lots of oxalates and other toxins, they harbor very beneficial enzymes which will lead to them doing more good than bad.

    How to eat them
    Blood sugar spikes ARE inherently harmful to you. The goal is to minimize them as much as we can.

    What to do while eating them:
    Ideally, you would consume carbohydrates when you are in direct full/half-body sunlight at at least a moderate to high uv, or as much as your body can handle and as much as you can tolerate. The sun exposure will lower your hba1c if done when eating the fruit. It's very important that you are in the sun as you consume the carbs, not right before or right after. Pro tip ideally make sure to get sun on your stomach as it will help blunt blood sugar spikes even more but not necessary. (PS: not important to do with carbs from dairy/formulas/milkshakes/recipes as the fat in the foods will significantly decrease the blood sugar spike from the carbs on its own.)

    Ways to eat them:
    You can consume them either in formulas, milkshakes, recipes, mixes, or just straight while in the sun. The most important part is that you consume straight fruit with fat under the sun and that in formulas/milkshakes/recipes you never have a straight carb product. It must always be paired with an at least equal amount of raw fats.

    When to eat them:
    Generally, the first thing you should consume after waking is fat and protein, but if you have low blood sugar, waking up with fruit, honey, or starches would be beneficial. Eating throughout the day is very damaging and not healthy, so something like eating two fat and protein meals per day with small (10-20 minute) period of snacking on things which have carbohydrates in the middle would be best.

    Conclusion: Some people should restrict carbohydrates if they have a certain condition, but the general rule is that inclusion of some carbohydrates will be much healthy. (However, a zero carb diet definitely has its upsides for aging better, but thats a topic for another time)

    Hope this helps 😉


  • 1000 USERS 🎉🎉🎉🎉🥳🥳🥳🥳
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    A day for celebration


  • Fucked my natural endocrine system with steroids in puberty what do I do I need help
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    For reference, my stack from 14-18 (I was doing a half cooked/half raw animal based diet, I'd say mostly raw all the time unless I went out, also got lots lots of sun because I lived in a desert country)

    • 400mg testosterone/week (hpta axis suppression, upped to 500mg+ at 15.5)
    • 12ius hgh per night (growth hormone/igf-1 axis suppression)
    • 1mg anastrozole eod (estrogen suppression)
    • 25mcg cytomel t3 (thyroid suppression)
    • 70mg/week tren at 15.5 (more hpta axis suppression)
    • BPC-157 (no real suppression, did it for cardioprotection)

    I did all this in the name of "ascension" because I was brainwashed by people in online forums who said it would be fine.

    I'm now 18 and heavily regretting it. What the fuck do I do to fix all of this suppression. I was doing this almost constantly for four years straight, will I ever be able to have children? Let alone healthy ones?

    For those wondering I grew from 5'7 at 14 to 6'4 now at 18 n got hella wide (bone age predicted height was 5'9) but I was suicidal half the time from feeling like genuine slime and almost killed myself because I had such low estrogen and almost became homosexual from the tren. Worst experience of my life do not recommend.


  • RawPrimal.Org Ranks
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    Not relevant to this post but this website needs a better format/UI and more sections like a botb and other stuff


  • best way to gymcel on the primal diet
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    A mix of weighted calisthenics+weights outdoors in the sun would be healthiest and best for hypertrophy.

    • 2 sets x 4-6 reps /exercise
    • full body 2-3x/week
    • 3 minutes rest between each set
    • 1-2 Reps in reserve (RIR) each set
    • Use an app like HEVY to track progressive overload

    Example (all done outside barefoot in sun if possible):

    2x4-6 weighted pull-ups
    2x4-6 weighted dips
    2x4-6 barbell back squats
    1x4-6 Chest supported upper back row
    2x4-6 Nordic hamstring curls
    1x4-6 lateral raises
    1x4-6 tricep pushdowns
    1x4-6 barbell biceps curls
    1x4-6 leg extensions (optional)

    This will max out 95% of all the muscle mass you could possibly gain in your whole life. Remember train incredibly hard and heavy. That is the most important aspect for hypertrophy.

    For nutrition you should not do anything special like carnivore or faceiq style high carb.

    For max growth the most optimal diet to do by far is the recommend daily eating schedule #1 from the recipe for living without disease (with some extra raw milk in the milkshakes bc its super anabolic) and plan your workouts to be right before a big protein hit (like the milkshakes or meat meals) and you will be fucking massive combined with training hard.

    (no recommendations but a small cycle of 300mg test with some hcg at the end of a cycle to maintain fertility never hurt anybody)


  • Comprehensive Guide to Dairy Fermentation
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    Raw milk naturally contains lactic acid bacteria, yeasts, enzymes, and other microorganisms. When you do the right things, these microbes ferment the milk into different cultured foods. Different traditions have produced different products, each with unique flavors, textures, and microbial cultures.

    This guide explains what each type is, how it works, potential benefits, and how to make them.

    Why Ferment Raw Milk?
    Fermentation changes milk in several ways.

    1. Beneficial bacteria multiply

    Lactic acid bacteria consume lactose (milk sugar) and produce lactic acid.

    Common bacteria include:

    • Lactococcus
    • Lactobacillus
    • Leuconostoc
    • Streptococcus thermophilus (depending on culture)
    • Various yeasts (especially kefir)
      These microbes lower spoilage organisms by lowering pH

    2. Lactose decreases

    As bacteria consume lactose:

    • Milk becomes easier to digest especially if youre lactose intolerant
    • Sweetness decreases
    • Acidity increases
    • Carbs decrease (so can be better if on a zero carb diet)

    Longer fermentation means less lactose.

    3. New nutrients are formed

    Fermentation microbes produce:

    • Vitamin K2 (certain strains)
    • Some B vitamins
    • Bioactive peptides
    • Organic acids

    The exact amount depends on the microbial strains.

    4. Proteins become predigested

    Microbes break proteins into:

    • Peptides (buzzword buzzword)
    • Amino acids

    Many people find fermented dairy easier to digest

    5. Texture changes

    Casein proteins coagulate into a gel.

    Depending on the microbes this creates:

    • Clabbered milk
    • Kefir
    • Yogurt
    • Sour cream
    • Cultured butter
    • Cheese

    Different Types of Raw Milk Fermentation

    1. Clabbered Milk

    • This is probably humanity's oldest fermented dairy.
    • No starter culture is added.
      Instead:
      Naturally occurring bacteria in raw milk multiply and the milk thickens while whey separates and acidity increases, giving you a tangy, creamy, and mildly sour drink wkth a yogurt-like texture and separated whey.

    2. Raw Milk Kefir
    Kefir uses kefir grains. These are not cereal grains. They are rubbery clusters containing bacteria, yeasts, and polysaccharides. There are over 30-60 species present depending on grains, producing one of the most microbially diverse foods.

    3. Cultured Raw Cream

    Instead of milk, ferment cream.
    Produces:

    • crème fraîche
    • cultured cream
    • SUPER rich

    4. Cultured Raw Butter
    Butter made from fermented cream. Traditional European butter. It has a longer shelf life and more diversity, although benefits are debatable as there is not so much lactose to be predigested.

    1. Raw Cheese

    Cheese is fermented milk with additional steps: coagulation, draining, aging. Different bacteria depending on the cheese.

    Disclaimer: Suddenly introducing lots of fermented dairy when youre full of toxins can cause unpleasant detoxification symptoms at first including diarrhea, nausea, and more. Start with a glass or so a day and work your way up.

    Clabbered Milk (HOW TO)
    How It Works:

    • Raw milk already contains microbes.
    • Leaving milk undisturbed at room temperature allows beneficial acid-producing bacteria to dominate.
    • The pH gradually falls.
      Once acidic enough:
    • casein proteins coagulate.
    • Milk thickens naturally.
      Equipment
      You need:
    • fresh raw milk
    • clean glass jar with no chemical wash or soap residues
    • breathable cloth or loose lid
    • rubber band
      Keep it in room temp not exposed to light at 20–24°C (68–75°F).
      Too cold: slow fermentation.
      Too warm: microbes dead
      Instructions
    • Pour milk into glass jar.
    • Leave about 20% empty space.
    • Cover with cloth.
    • Do not seal airtight.
    • Leave for 1-3 days untouched
    • It will become thicker, mildly sour, visible separation, and a neat aroma if done right.
    • Once desired fermentation is reached, refrigerate it (i personally never refrigerate my milk as the benefits never stop and too much fermentation doesn't exist).
      When youre ready to consume it
    • Strain for consistency
    • Stir gently until separation is gone
      Different results have different benefits. Some off-target results can be mold which is greatly beneficial but it will be toxic from mycotoxins and chemicals if fuzzy growth, pink, green, black, orange, or unappealing to your senses through smell. It should smell sour.

    Kefir

    Unlike clabber, kefir requires kefir grains. Kefir contains yeasts which produce co2 and tiny amounts of alcohol as fair warning (you will not get drunk).

    Equipment

    • See Clabbered Milk
    • Kefir grains or Kefir
      Metal contact is minimized because exposure to reactive metals may affect grains, though brief contact with stainless steel is acceptable.
      Ratio
      Common starting ratio:
    • 1 tablespoon grains or 4tbsp Kefir (no other ingredients besides milk + cultures)
      per
    • 2 cups raw milk

    Everything aside from the grains is the exact same as clabbered milk, see above for what to do.
    You may keep the jar with kefir culture stuck on the inside and simply pour raw milk into it to ferment more kefir.
    You may use lemon peel, vanilla, berries, or cinnamon to flavor the kefir.

    Cultured Cream

    • Use raw cream.
    • Leave at room temperature 12–48 hours.
      Produces thick cultured cream.
      Excellent for:
    • sauces
    • desserts
    • formulas
    • remedies

    Cultured Butter

    Step 1:
    Have cultured cream
    Step 2:
    Churn.

    • Butter separates from buttermilk.
    • Store cold.
      Traditional cultured butter has a richer, tangier flavor than sweet cream butter. I personally prefer it

    Raw Cheese
    Basic process in order:
    Milk, Starter bacteria, Coagulation, Curd, Drain, Age days to years.

    This took a little while so thank you for reading


  • FROM THIS DAY ON I DECLARE FULL OUT WAR ON THE GOVERNMENT AND THE INTERNET.
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    @Elliott87 good shit let us know how it goes


  • Thoughts on not being fully raw?
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    bro meat quality deadass does not matter ive eaten raw commercial chicken from walmart for the past month ive been fine


  • Weight
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    Eat 5 lube formulas per day


  • PAUL KRUHM OH MY FUCKING GOD
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    All the information
    https://primal-diet.net/phoenix-be/
    https://primal-diet.net/campaign/
    https://primal-diet.net/official-reply/


  • Hair
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    only wash your hair when you go to the ocean every week or two or if you do it more frequently. Apply raw butter to your hair, as well. Search up "Afar tribe hair" they do it religiously and have incredible hair. Sadly, they've been modernized and don't do it much anymore, so recent pictures don't look as great.


  • rate my cousin he’s new to primal
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    We KNOW this is you nga


  • I found raw squirrel
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    @Rabbi even better wtf


  • I hope this forum doesnt turn out like looksmax.org
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    With lm.org it was such high quality convo and shit years ago and everybody knew everybody and it was a good community and now its 99% greys and the forum is ruined with niggas asking the same questions that have been asked 1,000 times. Im not saying that I want this forum to stay small and niche (though that could be nice) but im worried too many new users could destroy the forums community and the connections everyone has

    who am I kidding this forum probably won't ever get that big


  • Fucked my natural endocrine system with steroids in puberty what do I do I need help
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    @zygomidus ive been eating tons of high meat n shi and lots of organs and even moldy berries but im wondering if anyones experimented with eating raw pituitary glands


  • Could @PrimalRevolution actually be god?
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    @PrimalRevolution yo why am I lowkey starting to think youre not joking. you actually might be our savior

    question

  • Fucked my natural endocrine system with steroids in puberty what do I do I need help
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    @Swansven will do


  • Nut Formula for acne and skin benefits?
    TrenAndTartareT TrenAndTartare

    I just smashed a nut formula (good asf) cause i was lowkey raging and pissed off at everything to detox my brain or whatever the heck it does anyways I feel better I was probably hungry but when I was eating it I realized like "ts hydrating asf" cause my lips were like hella plump and perfect after eating it and right beforehand they were super dry so I was wondering if putting some on my acne would help it so after I finished it I took my finger and scooped a bit and put it on the areas of my face that have acne and waiting for results. Anyone have any experience or ideas?

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