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I feel like if you live in a stress-free environment, you meditate, affirmate and do stuff like that then it's really beneficial to work out. What's bad is chronic stress, that's why if you're already stressed all the time and then additionally you go and kill your body it's obviously destructive to your NS and many other systems in the body.
Goatis says he felt much better after quitting working out for a month or whatever, so why not take long deloads sometimes. Tbh I think people are lazy and brainwashed by this mentally ill primal guru -
The argument is just brainwashing from Goatis, because over exertion makes the heart slightly bigger leading to cardiac arrest, or the fact that it ages you. But hunting also ages you and causes stress but we did those anyway.
My argument is for the gym as I think people naturally want to have bigger biceps or abs. Yes, Hollywood has brainwashed us to a degree but I can for sure guarentee that big muscles would impress people out in nature.
Another argument which is an obvious one but if a woman would like to have your children ever so slightly more because you have a sick physique, then that proves that we are going in the right direction as a species. Literally survival of the fittest. Woman have always tried to mate with the largest male going back millions of years. So why is muscle now a taboo?
You can look like you lift on primal without lifting, sure. But if you combine lifting 3x a week with primal? Game Over. You will look enchanced if commited to both.
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The argument is just brainwashing from Goatis, because over exertion makes the heart slightly bigger leading to cardiac arrest, or the fact that it ages you. But hunting also ages you and causes stress but we did those anyway.
My argument is for the gym as I think people naturally want to have bigger biceps or abs. Yes, Hollywood has brainwashed us to a degree but I can for sure guarentee that big muscles would impress people out in nature.
Another argument which is an obvious one but if a woman would like to have your children ever so slightly more because you have a sick physique, then that proves that we are going in the right direction as a species. Literally survival of the fittest. Woman have always tried to mate with the largest male going back millions of years. So why is muscle now a taboo?
You can look like you lift on primal without lifting, sure. But if you combine lifting 3x a week with primal? Game Over. You will look enchanced if commited to both.
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@Jay this.
Makes perfect sense to increase fitness
But is primal good for lifting and sports. Seems like lack of carbs is an issue also sorry to break it you man but you wont look enhanced as a natty even with the best diet.@Chill You could compromise and go low carb. I'm at 100-150 a day and most of it is before my training session. Usually fruits, honey & milk. I think that range is the highest you should generally go on primal too.
Btw you can look enhanced on primal because you look less fat at the same body fat as someone on cooked fat
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@Chill You could compromise and go low carb. I'm at 100-150 a day and most of it is before my training session. Usually fruits, honey & milk. I think that range is the highest you should generally go on primal too.
Btw you can look enhanced on primal because you look less fat at the same body fat as someone on cooked fat
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I personally dont see nothing wrong with going to the gym, ones in a while.The "downsides" you get are so small, that If you just enjoy fitness i can't think of a reoson why not to go.Even i go workout only one time a week at the gym,but i also do other sports on the side.
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I feel like if you live in a stress-free environment, you meditate, affirmate and do stuff like that then it's really beneficial to work out. What's bad is chronic stress, that's why if you're already stressed all the time and then additionally you go and kill your body it's obviously destructive to your NS and many other systems in the body.
Goatis says he felt much better after quitting working out for a month or whatever, so why not take long deloads sometimes. Tbh I think people are lazy and brainwashed by this mentally ill primal guru@Vladimir It’s not just stress during the workout. It’s the fact that you are constantly slightly stressed also bc you’re constantly spending energy and nutrients on repairing your body. Goatis is kinda right bruh ppl who train a lot look exhausted bc their body literally hasn’t felt completely at rest in ages.
On top of that traditional weightlifting makes your front and back chain inbalanced (front becomes dominant instead of naturally it would be back chain dom). Essentially it’s bad posture and I would argue that posture is way more important than muscle mass. Otherwise the frame for the muscles is already crooked lol. Also if you train a lot of isolation your muscles will develop weirdly imbalance like huge arms relative to body or small calves with big quads but also small hams and glutes. Or big biceps and triceps and small forearms. Also neck size gives away that you are not actually muscular bc high test but just frauding. People pick up on these little things.
You could occasionally train posture muscles and breathing muscles when you feel like it. But if you eat this diet and stop going to the gym your muscle mass will become balanced and drop to a level that your test determines. I think goatis is right bro why be permanently stressed slightly for smth that literally starts going away the week you stop training.
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@Vladimir It’s not just stress during the workout. It’s the fact that you are constantly slightly stressed also bc you’re constantly spending energy and nutrients on repairing your body. Goatis is kinda right bruh ppl who train a lot look exhausted bc their body literally hasn’t felt completely at rest in ages.
On top of that traditional weightlifting makes your front and back chain inbalanced (front becomes dominant instead of naturally it would be back chain dom). Essentially it’s bad posture and I would argue that posture is way more important than muscle mass. Otherwise the frame for the muscles is already crooked lol. Also if you train a lot of isolation your muscles will develop weirdly imbalance like huge arms relative to body or small calves with big quads but also small hams and glutes. Or big biceps and triceps and small forearms. Also neck size gives away that you are not actually muscular bc high test but just frauding. People pick up on these little things.
You could occasionally train posture muscles and breathing muscles when you feel like it. But if you eat this diet and stop going to the gym your muscle mass will become balanced and drop to a level that your test determines. I think goatis is right bro why be permanently stressed slightly for smth that literally starts going away the week you stop training.
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@Liverlover goatis is right but only applies to normal diet. If you don’t replenish the nutrients you lose from working, which you never do on a normal diet, that’s where the “stress” is.
@Elliott87 Yeah but you never fully “heal” your body you’re always in a deficient state
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@Elliott87 Yeah but you never fully “heal” your body you’re always in a deficient state
@Liverlover this opinion is straight buns bro
The fact that you get stronger and can progressivly overload is because you healed, its evidence you healed.First you compensate then you overcompensate, now u got a bit bigger and a bit stronger.
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@Vladimir It’s not just stress during the workout. It’s the fact that you are constantly slightly stressed also bc you’re constantly spending energy and nutrients on repairing your body. Goatis is kinda right bruh ppl who train a lot look exhausted bc their body literally hasn’t felt completely at rest in ages.
On top of that traditional weightlifting makes your front and back chain inbalanced (front becomes dominant instead of naturally it would be back chain dom). Essentially it’s bad posture and I would argue that posture is way more important than muscle mass. Otherwise the frame for the muscles is already crooked lol. Also if you train a lot of isolation your muscles will develop weirdly imbalance like huge arms relative to body or small calves with big quads but also small hams and glutes. Or big biceps and triceps and small forearms. Also neck size gives away that you are not actually muscular bc high test but just frauding. People pick up on these little things.
You could occasionally train posture muscles and breathing muscles when you feel like it. But if you eat this diet and stop going to the gym your muscle mass will become balanced and drop to a level that your test determines. I think goatis is right bro why be permanently stressed slightly for smth that literally starts going away the week you stop training.
@Liverlover I didn't really understand your point about imbalanced muscles on legs and arms, bc you can train not just quads but also your glutes and hams lol.
I think any sane person wouldn't want big ass quads like bodybuilders, just better than average, right?
You can train your neck as well, that's what I'm doing.
Also a guy who trains looks better than an average excellent health looking guy. Like he looks so insignificant compared to guys next to him in his interviews. I'd say the benefits of being muscular in today's world balance out the negatives.
And like I said, take deloads.
Forgot to say that Aajonus' parents lived on a farm (If I'm correct), he had good genetics. That's what allowed him to be muscular while not training. But most of us, who's parents probably took a couple vaccines and had more pollution, we're passed down worser genes and can't really stay that muscular not working out. Maybe only our children or grandchildren will be able to. ( last paragraph just my theory) -
@Liverlover this opinion is straight buns bro
The fact that you get stronger and can progressivly overload is because you healed, its evidence you healed.First you compensate then you overcompensate, now u got a bit bigger and a bit stronger.
@Chill Yeah you heal and then immediately break it down again. If you doing light training every now and then alright but 6 times a week means your body is constantly busy repairing and cant focus on long term survival.
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@Liverlover I didn't really understand your point about imbalanced muscles on legs and arms, bc you can train not just quads but also your glutes and hams lol.
I think any sane person wouldn't want big ass quads like bodybuilders, just better than average, right?
You can train your neck as well, that's what I'm doing.
Also a guy who trains looks better than an average excellent health looking guy. Like he looks so insignificant compared to guys next to him in his interviews. I'd say the benefits of being muscular in today's world balance out the negatives.
And like I said, take deloads.
Forgot to say that Aajonus' parents lived on a farm (If I'm correct), he had good genetics. That's what allowed him to be muscular while not training. But most of us, who's parents probably took a couple vaccines and had more pollution, we're passed down worser genes and can't really stay that muscular not working out. Maybe only our children or grandchildren will be able to. ( last paragraph just my theory)@Vladimir Yes you can train every muscle apart but thats not how your body works. Many people focus more on quads tho thats for sure even hip trust trains your quads many people dont understand that your glutes should be dominant and how to actually train them. For neck I hope your focusing on extension of the spine and then flexion of your head so chin tuck basically. If you train front you gonna literally train forward head posture. Thats a big issue too people think muscles are all for show nowadays while the function is 10x more important
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@Vladimir Yes you can train every muscle apart but thats not how your body works. Many people focus more on quads tho thats for sure even hip trust trains your quads many people dont understand that your glutes should be dominant and how to actually train them. For neck I hope your focusing on extension of the spine and then flexion of your head so chin tuck basically. If you train front you gonna literally train forward head posture. Thats a big issue too people think muscles are all for show nowadays while the function is 10x more important
@Liverlover I see, ye that's true. As for neck I'm doing Josh Bryant's neck workout, you basically lay down, lift your head a little and then do a chin tuck. For the sides you just bring ear to shoulder, and then look left and right with the head. Doing the back side too.
All I can say is its thicker, stronger and actually helped my FHP + it doesn't get tired anymore in class or whenever im sedentary -
@Chill Yeah you heal and then immediately break it down again. If you doing light training every now and then alright but 6 times a week means your body is constantly busy repairing and cant focus on long term survival.
@Liverlover I actually agree with this. I think cardio is obviously bad & 5-6 times a week is bad.
I'm sort of in the middle of this, you don't need to be a proffesional bodybuilder but you can try work out hard for 2 years 3x per week & then just maintain that physique with 2 moderate workouts per week. Anything more than 2 years is probably diminishing returns.
You will look pretty good lean after 2 years of training even with "Poverty Genetics"
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@Chill Yeah you heal and then immediately break it down again. If you doing light training every now and then alright but 6 times a week means your body is constantly busy repairing and cant focus on long term survival.
@Liverlover i hear ya man
but think of this when you squat or deadlift your test spikes and your hgh too iirc
so does that mean that now you have high test? no
same with the "downsides" of the gym the "stress" or whatever you are implying
at the moment of training you absolutley get more stressed but that is very much temporary, and the upsides are bigger than the downsides
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@Vladimir It’s not just stress during the workout. It’s the fact that you are constantly slightly stressed also bc you’re constantly spending energy and nutrients on repairing your body. Goatis is kinda right bruh ppl who train a lot look exhausted bc their body literally hasn’t felt completely at rest in ages.
On top of that traditional weightlifting makes your front and back chain inbalanced (front becomes dominant instead of naturally it would be back chain dom). Essentially it’s bad posture and I would argue that posture is way more important than muscle mass. Otherwise the frame for the muscles is already crooked lol. Also if you train a lot of isolation your muscles will develop weirdly imbalance like huge arms relative to body or small calves with big quads but also small hams and glutes. Or big biceps and triceps and small forearms. Also neck size gives away that you are not actually muscular bc high test but just frauding. People pick up on these little things.
You could occasionally train posture muscles and breathing muscles when you feel like it. But if you eat this diet and stop going to the gym your muscle mass will become balanced and drop to a level that your test determines. I think goatis is right bro why be permanently stressed slightly for smth that literally starts going away the week you stop training.
Goatis is kinda right bruh ppl who train a lot look exhausted bc their body literally hasn’t felt completely at rest in ages.
goatis says wild stuff man take it with pinch of salt, this is also not true you should feel fantasitc when training. many people report more confidence and mental health and ofcourse better physical form. you dont look exhausted from a simply working out bro and if you do there are bigger problems for you.
On top of that traditional weightlifting makes your front and back chain inbalanced (front becomes dominant instead of naturally it would be back chain dom).
spoken like someone who doesnt know weightlifting
traditional weightlifting especially olympic is very posterior chain dominant, strongman is posterior chain dominant, powerlifting is super niche down but still have big emphasis on legs and glutes
this happens only in dudes that chest press and do nothing else that is "wrong" ok but then its a problem with the people not the workoutEssentially it’s bad posture and I would argue that posture is way more important than muscle mass.
i see your point, but muscle mass helps you with posture you can correct bad posture by working out back and neck muscles
Also if you train a lot of isolation your muscles will develop weirdly imbalance like huge arms relative to body or small calves with big quads but also small hams and glutes. Or big biceps and triceps and small forearms. Also neck size gives away that you are not actually muscular bc high test but just frauding.
what? isolations can be used to prevent and fix imbalances like rear delts relative to front delts or side delts. do you know the spider physique its imbalance between limbs and torso which happens if you dont use some isolations.
also wdym "frauding". you got more muscular. the muscle is there. you arent pretending
and high test helps you get muscular but it doesnt not by itself make you muscular, unless you inject roidsI think goatis is right bro why be permanently stressed slightly for smth that literally starts going away the week you stop training.
muscles fades away very very slowly so if you "lose" your gains in a few weeks then you didnt have many gains to start with. there are many reasons to workout you are stronger, resist injury better, better for hormones, better longevity etc. another dude said that women get more attracted to you which is true
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@Liverlover I see, ye that's true. As for neck I'm doing Josh Bryant's neck workout, you basically lay down, lift your head a little and then do a chin tuck. For the sides you just bring ear to shoulder, and then look left and right with the head. Doing the back side too.
All I can say is its thicker, stronger and actually helped my FHP + it doesn't get tired anymore in class or whenever im sedentary -
Goatis is kinda right bruh ppl who train a lot look exhausted bc their body literally hasn’t felt completely at rest in ages.
goatis says wild stuff man take it with pinch of salt, this is also not true you should feel fantasitc when training. many people report more confidence and mental health and ofcourse better physical form. you dont look exhausted from a simply working out bro and if you do there are bigger problems for you.
On top of that traditional weightlifting makes your front and back chain inbalanced (front becomes dominant instead of naturally it would be back chain dom).
spoken like someone who doesnt know weightlifting
traditional weightlifting especially olympic is very posterior chain dominant, strongman is posterior chain dominant, powerlifting is super niche down but still have big emphasis on legs and glutes
this happens only in dudes that chest press and do nothing else that is "wrong" ok but then its a problem with the people not the workoutEssentially it’s bad posture and I would argue that posture is way more important than muscle mass.
i see your point, but muscle mass helps you with posture you can correct bad posture by working out back and neck muscles
Also if you train a lot of isolation your muscles will develop weirdly imbalance like huge arms relative to body or small calves with big quads but also small hams and glutes. Or big biceps and triceps and small forearms. Also neck size gives away that you are not actually muscular bc high test but just frauding.
what? isolations can be used to prevent and fix imbalances like rear delts relative to front delts or side delts. do you know the spider physique its imbalance between limbs and torso which happens if you dont use some isolations.
also wdym "frauding". you got more muscular. the muscle is there. you arent pretending
and high test helps you get muscular but it doesnt not by itself make you muscular, unless you inject roidsI think goatis is right bro why be permanently stressed slightly for smth that literally starts going away the week you stop training.
muscles fades away very very slowly so if you "lose" your gains in a few weeks then you didnt have many gains to start with. there are many reasons to workout you are stronger, resist injury better, better for hormones, better longevity etc. another dude said that women get more attracted to you which is true
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@Vladimir See how josh bryant has a double chin? I didnt know him but looked him up. That is a consequence of training fhp. You can still train neck but I would suggest always extension to get back chain dominance.
