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@Vibrance-ᛉ thx for helping appreciate it, if i stopped the low dose test cycle will i also lose my extra gains? because ofc i wont be on test my whole life, compared to if i didnt pin test will test make me have more "real" muslces?
@Shaprawy Yeah, you'll usually keep some of the muscle you gained, but probably not all of it. Testosterone lets you build muscle faster than your natural hormone levels would, so once you stop and your hormones return to normal, you'll likely lose some size and strength
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@zygomidus im open to know what are them
@Shaprawy fix your bones (too late kinda) and digestive system (very possible). Lol the gym isn't gonna do anything for you. Do you think a girl who goes to the gym after a while looks more sexually attractive. That's what you gonna look like to girls if you understand what I mean.
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@Vibrance-ᛉ thx for helping appreciate it, if i stopped the low dose test cycle will i also lose my extra gains? because ofc i wont be on test my whole life, compared to if i didnt pin test will test make me have more "real" muslces?
@Shaprawy you won't lose any noticeable gains if you use hcg for your natural test and follow the eating schedule #1
even if you do you'll have grown so much it wouldn't matter. Let's say in a year you grow 35lbs of muscle on steroids and 15lbs naturally. If you go off cycle and youre unlucky enough to lose any (unlikely) you will maybe go down to 25 or 30lbs which is still far beyond your 10lbs naturally
- if youre on steroids one time its 2x easier to grow muscle off cycle for the rest of your life because of your body's newfound capabilities and adaptations and more myonuclei
Also the photo you provided of a goal physique is achievable in a few months. If you follow the eating schedule #1 and trained hard the way I listed you could look like Kinobody in a year or two naturally and in a year or less with the test
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dont start gym yet, reaxh ur natral limit first. i started the diet and went up to 71kg at 183 with no gym just the raw meat and milk, if u notice u eat enough and u stopped pitting on weight start gym
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i would say a high frequency split like fb 3x a week or eod if you can handle it. minimalist so 1 excerice per muscle 1 set 2-0 rir. increase muscle meat intake and drink some hydrating juices durning idk
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i want to gymcel on the diet very bad, ik ppl in the community like to demonize the gym but im only here to increase my life quality since im skinny for my height (65kg on 186cm) and being more physically aesthetic will increase my life cahnces, also i saw ppl in the primal community saying that u can gymcel while mantaining ur health and longevity, so how do i go about it?
how do i minimize stress as much as possible?
how much do i increase carb?
how many times should i train a week and how long a training session should be?
if anybody here did gymcel on the diet how much weight did u gain first 6 months?
also since social media is obsessed with putting super high standards and making slaves body dismorphic, is this physique realistic? with a little bit bigger arms

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i want to gymcel on the diet very bad, ik ppl in the community like to demonize the gym but im only here to increase my life quality since im skinny for my height (65kg on 186cm) and being more physically aesthetic will increase my life cahnces, also i saw ppl in the primal community saying that u can gymcel while mantaining ur health and longevity, so how do i go about it?
how do i minimize stress as much as possible?
how much do i increase carb?
how many times should i train a week and how long a training session should be?
if anybody here did gymcel on the diet how much weight did u gain first 6 months?
also since social media is obsessed with putting super high standards and making slaves body dismorphic, is this physique realistic? with a little bit bigger arms

@Shaprawy
According to aajonus you can build decent muscles with
meat meals + lube formula.
also spam milkshakes and milkoptional but recommend: 35 minutes after your meat meal with lube eat cheese + honey to help with mineral absorption (helps strengthen bones)
You can include carbs like potatos 1-2x a month but combine with a lot of fat and raw honey
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@Shaprawy fix your bones (too late kinda) and digestive system (very possible). Lol the gym isn't gonna do anything for you. Do you think a girl who goes to the gym after a while looks more sexually attractive. That's what you gonna look like to girls if you understand what I mean.
@zygomidus im already fixing my digestive system, your point is very empty, yes if a girl is fucking fat and loses wieght she is going to look more attractive, some petite can go to the gym train lightly while mantaining their fertility and bulk up on a high raw fat diet (but not all). and its common sensibly obvious that girls like big mascular men, im already pretty tall i just need to bulk up a little bit
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dont start gym yet, reaxh ur natral limit first. i started the diet and went up to 71kg at 183 with no gym just the raw meat and milk, if u notice u eat enough and u stopped pitting on weight start gym
@stacytampon how much were u before getting on the diet? how much did it take to be 71kg?
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@zygomidus im already fixing my digestive system, your point is very empty, yes if a girl is fucking fat and loses wieght she is going to look more attractive, some petite can go to the gym train lightly while mantaining their fertility and bulk up on a high raw fat diet (but not all). and its common sensibly obvious that girls like big mascular men, im already pretty tall i just need to bulk up a little bit
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@Shaprawy lifting heavier weights up and down or using machines isnt gonna fix any of your problems ever lol. whatever makes you happy bro.
@zygomidus u sound to me like a goatistard, a guy who just saw 3 vids of sv3rige and starts saying gym is inherently bad, i am free because i grew my ""mane"" bro, complains abt fruits being unnatural while sitting on social media/forums all day, thinks that going back to being cavemen is ALWAYS good in every case, again u didnt make any valid point, alot of primals gymcel while maintaining their health its normal, and btw i wont do that my whole life only a year or smth until i start focusing on other more cardio sports to maintain movement and cardiovascular health and strength
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@zygomidus u sound to me like a goatistard, a guy who just saw 3 vids of sv3rige and starts saying gym is inherently bad, i am free because i grew my ""mane"" bro, complains abt fruits being unnatural while sitting on social media/forums all day, thinks that going back to being cavemen is ALWAYS good in every case, again u didnt make any valid point, alot of primals gymcel while maintaining their health its normal, and btw i wont do that my whole life only a year or smth until i start focusing on other more cardio sports to maintain movement and cardiovascular health and strength
@Shaprawy whatever makes you happy bro. the first gym opened in 1848 according to wikipedia so i guess people before werent healthy. movement isnt inherently bad and you shouldnt lay in bed all day so really think about what people where doing before "gyms". and what does goatis have to with me. You are calling me goatistard lmaoooo. what does tard after a term even mean. you are the one with the social media slang
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@Shaprawy whatever makes you happy bro. the first gym opened in 1848 according to wikipedia so i guess people before werent healthy. movement isnt inherently bad and you shouldnt lay in bed all day so really think about what people where doing before "gyms". and what does goatis have to with me. You are calling me goatistard lmaoooo. what does tard after a term even mean. you are the one with the social media slang
@zygomidus working out outdoors is not even comparable to a slave indoor gym and a few years off your 140 year lifespan to look and feel amazing and be more confident and status is worth it lmao
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@zygomidus working out outdoors is not even comparable to a slave indoor gym and a few years off your 140 year lifespan to look and feel amazing and be more confident and status is worth it lmao
@Vibrance-ᛉ agree
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@stacytampon how much were u before getting on the diet? how much did it take to be 71kg?
is say like 63 64 ish and it took like 6 months IF i remember right
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is say like 63 64 ish and it took like 6 months IF i remember right
@stacytampon that's impressive
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is say like 63 64 ish and it took like 6 months IF i remember right
@stacytampon what did u eat exactly on a day to day basis to reach 71kg
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@stacytampon what did u eat exactly on a day to day basis to reach 71kg
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@Elliott87 186cm