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@Ice Mark 7:19, Jesus declares all food clean. This is why Christians can eat pork and drink blood if they like. The final supper Jesus says to eat my body and drink my blood. Symbolically we eat bread and wine, but that is peasant food. I would actually eat communion and not just a blessing if animals body and blood was given symbolically instead
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@Chill alcohol is biologically a poison, there’s a reason it immediately metabolizes it, because it’s a toxin that your body wants gone
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@veloman Im not gonna say alcohol is good, i agree with your take there,
but the Holy Communion is not "alcohol and grains"I dont know if your Christian, but I i think you misunderstood what the Eucharist is.
@Chill I’m not Christian, and I’m not judging you for being Christian either, everyone should have the right to believe what they want to. But I also think you shouldn’t follow everything so blindly. Such as eating bread. If god is willing to send you to hell because you won’t eat his sacred grain sludge then I see no point in following anything he says. Anyways regarding the Eucharist, I would appreciate you explaining it further
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@Chill I’m not Christian, and I’m not judging you for being Christian either, everyone should have the right to believe what they want to. But I also think you shouldn’t follow everything so blindly. Such as eating bread. If god is willing to send you to hell because you won’t eat his sacred grain sludge then I see no point in following anything he says. Anyways regarding the Eucharist, I would appreciate you explaining it further
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if you are basing your life on something you cant sense then you know you've been brainwashed, if something created us then they gave us instructions how to live life innate, you shouldnt need do read some manmade book with some symbols and imagine that thats how it is
@primalcel yeahh man this is the best argument ive heard if god would be real you would have instincts to say prayers and that.
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@Chill I’m not Christian, and I’m not judging you for being Christian either, everyone should have the right to believe what they want to. But I also think you shouldn’t follow everything so blindly. Such as eating bread. If god is willing to send you to hell because you won’t eat his sacred grain sludge then I see no point in following anything he says. Anyways regarding the Eucharist, I would appreciate you explaining it further
But I also think you shouldn’t follow everything so blindly.
Thats why both of us are here.
If god is willing to send you to hell
Where did you get this from? Regarding the Eucharist specificallyAnyways regarding the Eucharist, I would appreciate you explaining it further
Ofc, the reason we have Holy Communion in the first place is, inter alia, to serve as remembrance of the Last Supper and for Salvation. Matthew 26:26. “Take and eat; this is my body.”
The Eucharist symbolizes our relationship with Christ, and the bread and wine symbolizes Jesus body and blood.
The bread and wine is however not just bread and wine, it is in the most literal sense, the body and blood of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.There are people way more knowledgeable than me, like S:t John Crysostom , IIRC, explaining this.
Hope this helps feel free to dm for more questions or general discussion.
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Hey, I'm a Christian. I know the goat community is against religion, which they see as a means of control and enslavement. I don't think so. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, that's not the point here. I wanted to know if there are other Christians like me here on this forum, and what you think about what the Bible says about food. Muscle meat is mentioned, but I haven't seen any mention of offal. Raw meat isn't mentioned either. But it does mention vegetable oils, and even some flowers, and especially bread, as you all know. What do you think, my Christian brothers? It doesn't fit with our lifestyle on this RawPrimal site. The same applies to blood, which is called impure.
@Ice I dont like the christian mentality, they all say you’re nothing without god and you need everytime to be apologising, if god exists he would make us perfect like is said we were created in the image and likeness of God. Probably on the bible they said about raw meat but it was adulterated. This is just my opinion
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@primalcel yeahh man this is the best argument ive heard if god would be real you would have instincts to say prayers and that.
@Liverlover
This is amongst the worst arguments I have seen.
How can we humans, limited by definition, "instinctively", understand something/someone so unlimited, omnipresent and eternal, just by being born?Let me give you some food for thought:
When radiowaves where created, a man made invention, we the inventors/creators of our own creation could yet not see any purpose or use in it. If I am not wrong we did not fully grasp it, mathematicians had predicted radiowaves before they became useful, and up until then we did not properly understand their use.
So if we could not even understand our own creations, or the things we dicovered, what makes you think we will "instinctively" understand The Creator, who is beyond this world.
Another great example is numbers. IIRC there are numbers so large we can not, literally speaking, not metaphorically, comprehend them. Yet numbers are one of the most logical and simple things growing up. 1+1=2 2+8=10 and so on, can and will get to a point beyond out understanding.
So again, how can something, which is so simple and easy to grasp as a consept, such as addition or subtraction, get to a point beyond our understanding, whilst the Holiness of God can be contained to "instinct".
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@Ice I dont like the christian mentality, they all say you’re nothing without god and you need everytime to be apologising, if god exists he would make us perfect like is said we were created in the image and likeness of God. Probably on the bible they said about raw meat but it was adulterated. This is just my opinion
@rawcular11
This just came from someone with richard ramirez a serial killer on his pfp btw, do with that what you will. Also how old are you man?God created us in a perfect place, as far as I know. The garden of Eden. Everything was great, on one condition, that we shouldnt consume that fruit, which we did. So even when God gave us perfection we still managed to walk away towards sin, which is why we need to pray and repent. Because of this God allows us to return to his perfection: heaven. By praying and repenting and fasting and helping your fellow people and so on.
Probably on the bible they said about raw meat but it was adulterated.
This is a separate discussion but long story short: No, it wasnt adulterated.
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@RuskinPrimal Thank you for your reply, my brother.
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Hey, I'm a Christian. I know the goat community is against religion, which they see as a means of control and enslavement. I don't think so. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, that's not the point here. I wanted to know if there are other Christians like me here on this forum, and what you think about what the Bible says about food. Muscle meat is mentioned, but I haven't seen any mention of offal. Raw meat isn't mentioned either. But it does mention vegetable oils, and even some flowers, and especially bread, as you all know. What do you think, my Christian brothers? It doesn't fit with our lifestyle on this RawPrimal site. The same applies to blood, which is called impure.
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Goatiscels are religious ironically lol
@eatrawmeat xplain
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@Ice also, don't ever listen to goatis. The core tennant of sataism is "do what though wilt" which is exactly what goatis promotes. He phrases it as "do whatever you want" though
@RuskinPrimal so do what? Not follow your intuition?
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@rawcular11
This just came from someone with richard ramirez a serial killer on his pfp btw, do with that what you will. Also how old are you man?God created us in a perfect place, as far as I know. The garden of Eden. Everything was great, on one condition, that we shouldnt consume that fruit, which we did. So even when God gave us perfection we still managed to walk away towards sin, which is why we need to pray and repent. Because of this God allows us to return to his perfection: heaven. By praying and repenting and fasting and helping your fellow people and so on.
Probably on the bible they said about raw meat but it was adulterated.
This is a separate discussion but long story short: No, it wasnt adulterated.
@Chill I didn’t do shit, neither you, it was eve’s fault. Now because of someone else we have to be fasting (starving) and claiming apologizes from something we didnt do?
Also, about the adultarated part: i dont have any proof but is said there “What contaminates is not what goes into the mouth, but what comes out of it”. If you’re here on the forum you already know how wrong this take is, why god would give us such a terrible advice? Everything that goes on our mouth CONTAMINATES US if we dont be careful.
I have read the bible 2 times (only the version with the stories, not the original one) and I really liked everything, the messages of each story and so on. You dont know how much I wanna God to be real.
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@RuskinPrimal so do what? Not follow your intuition?
@Liverlover intuition is different from simply doing whatever you want. To intuit something is to know something to be true, in my eyes truth lines up with righteousness and goodness. Doing whatever you want personally is not intuition it's laziness and selfishness
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@Chill I didn’t do shit, neither you, it was eve’s fault. Now because of someone else we have to be fasting (starving) and claiming apologizes from something we didnt do?
Also, about the adultarated part: i dont have any proof but is said there “What contaminates is not what goes into the mouth, but what comes out of it”. If you’re here on the forum you already know how wrong this take is, why god would give us such a terrible advice? Everything that goes on our mouth CONTAMINATES US if we dont be careful.
I have read the bible 2 times (only the version with the stories, not the original one) and I really liked everything, the messages of each story and so on. You dont know how much I wanna God to be real.
@rawcular11 I mean dawg if u see his life, can u blame Richard for doing that shit. Also he killed a lot of Jews so that’s pretty based
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@Liverlover intuition is different from simply doing whatever you want. To intuit something is to know something to be true, in my eyes truth lines up with righteousness and goodness. Doing whatever you want personally is not intuition it's laziness and selfishness
@RuskinPrimal goodness and rightiousness dont exist. What now?
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@RuskinPrimal goodness and rightiousness dont exist. What now?
@Liverlover I disagree with you. I simply see that line of reasoning akin to silly billy eastern mysticism
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@Liverlover I disagree with you. I simply see that line of reasoning akin to silly billy eastern mysticism
@RuskinPrimal the same thing can always be perceived as good or bad from different perspectives. I will give an example somebody kills your child and you kill them back. For you this is “righteous” while for the justice system this is “bad”. So you cant say something is objectively bad no matter what. Helping people is good but helping the enemies is bad is another one.
