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Thoughts on gym?

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  • velomanV veloman

    @themanwhosleeps definitely good if you wanna get more women, but you can build a decent amount with the right diet and being active, in my opinion though it doesn’t outweigh the cons

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    @veloman Sure but won't the face become less attractive from stress, and that is more important than physique for attraction?

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      stressing yourself is a mental dis-ease, you literally are at dis ease

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        No benefits for health in my opinion.

        its hard to think what benefits it could have but maybe a way to channel emotions, like if you are heartbroken then people go to gym to destroy those negative feelings, actually its excellent for it. going to gym and lifting is basically a solid coping mechanism for some.

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        @Rabbi Where is the line between good exercise and bad exercise?
        if im only lifting weights that are light is it still negative?

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        • elaE ela

          @Rabbi Where is the line between good exercise and bad exercise?
          if im only lifting weights that are light is it still negative?

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          @ela there is no line, its a spectrum. the lighter you go the less physical damage you do, the point of gym is to damage your body so it adapts to it and grows stronger so it can survive the damage better in future. its hormesis.

          Your tissues always adapt to the stress you put to it, so if you exercise you will basically have more ability theoretically in short-term than person who doesn't exercise but you will age faster because your body needs to focus on tissue repair and can't focus as well to DNA repair which causes more rapid aging. the reasoning is that your body has only limited chemicals and chemical reaction speed is limited, so chemicals need to be allocated in hierarchy, most important is short-term survival and gym overrides that because if you don't fix the damage you caused on gym you would degenerate fast. if your body is very well nourished and has good storages then it could be that exercises damage is mitigated. if not it will biochemically lead to inaduquate tissue repair and maintenance somewhere in body. but remember its a spectrum, not a line.

          this is basically the disposable soma theory.

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            @ela there is no line, its a spectrum. the lighter you go the less physical damage you do, the point of gym is to damage your body so it adapts to it and grows stronger so it can survive the damage better in future. its hormesis.

            Your tissues always adapt to the stress you put to it, so if you exercise you will basically have more ability theoretically in short-term than person who doesn't exercise but you will age faster because your body needs to focus on tissue repair and can't focus as well to DNA repair which causes more rapid aging. the reasoning is that your body has only limited chemicals and chemical reaction speed is limited, so chemicals need to be allocated in hierarchy, most important is short-term survival and gym overrides that because if you don't fix the damage you caused on gym you would degenerate fast. if your body is very well nourished and has good storages then it could be that exercises damage is mitigated. if not it will biochemically lead to inaduquate tissue repair and maintenance somewhere in body. but remember its a spectrum, not a line.

            this is basically the disposable soma theory.

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            @Rabbi Okay i understand that a lot more now, so should going to the gym be mainly used for lighter exercises rather than doing super heavy weights right?

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            • elaE ela

              @Rabbi Okay i understand that a lot more now, so should going to the gym be mainly used for lighter exercises rather than doing super heavy weights right?

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              @ela lighter exercise is better.

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              • RabbiR Rabbi

                @veloman Sure but won't the face become less attractive from stress, and that is more important than physique for attraction?

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                @Rabbi Yh that’s true tbf

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                • elaE ela

                  @Rabbi Okay i understand that a lot more now, so should going to the gym be mainly used for lighter exercises rather than doing super heavy weights right?

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                  @ela You don't need to go to the gym at all, especially as a woman. If you actually enjoy it, go for it. If you find yourself not wanting to go, then you're needlessly stressing yourself out. This doesn't mean movement in general is bad. Movement is a great tool to increase your health because it's what we were designed to do. You just have to focus on natural movements like walking or perhaps short sprints. Running and lifting heavy metal don't make sense from a naturalistic standpoint. Humans were built for walking long distances. I might make a post on natural movements in the future.

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                    @ela You don't need to go to the gym at all, especially as a woman. If you actually enjoy it, go for it. If you find yourself not wanting to go, then you're needlessly stressing yourself out. This doesn't mean movement in general is bad. Movement is a great tool to increase your health because it's what we were designed to do. You just have to focus on natural movements like walking or perhaps short sprints. Running and lifting heavy metal don't make sense from a naturalistic standpoint. Humans were built for walking long distances. I might make a post on natural movements in the future.

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                    @Swansven What about swimming? I've mainly swapped out weight training for swimming

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                    • elaE ela

                      @Swansven What about swimming? I've mainly swapped out weight training for swimming

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                      @ela Swimming seems great. Anything that isn't stressful that you can have fun doing is a good option.

                      Enjoy the raw milk

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                        Guys I don't understand why gyming will ever will be bad, if you have proper recovery. I absolutly dont understand goatis

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