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Is homosexuality natural or unnatural?

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  • NotBloodStealN NotBloodSteal

    @Rawsei You brain-dead retards in the chat are just ridiculous. Genuinely what are you talking abt. No being a gay faggot is not natural. No its not something our ancestors did. And no you can't prove it. I thought more ppl would agree with me here but I guess not. I'm surrounded by retards.

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    @NotBloodSteal What's your standard of natural? You've provided 0 arguments for it being unnatural.

    Aristotle, Ayn, Aajonus.

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    • RawseiR Rawsei

      @NotBloodSteal What's your standard of natural? You've provided 0 arguments for it being unnatural.

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      Natural means something that happened or found in nature. For me personally I couldn't see our ancestors having sex with the same gender because we are naturally attracted to the opposite genders, its nature

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      • maasaiM maasai

        Natural means something that happened or found in nature. For me personally I couldn't see our ancestors having sex with the same gender because we are naturally attracted to the opposite genders, its nature

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        @maasai Is naturalness a virtue? Should it be pursued? If natural is simply "what is found in nature", then it is open to rape, murder, pillaging, etc. Are these something to be valued?

        Aristotle, Ayn, Aajonus.

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        • E ebony

          Ik animals and also primates (including humans) used to have same-sex all the time 10,000 years ago, but incest an rape are also seen in nature and that doesn't make them good. Would you say sex is only for reproduction between a male and a female and using it for smth else is unnatural?

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          @ebony no it isn’t, I’ve had a six hour debate with a dude on it but homosexuality is a result of the social cognition theory

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            no it isn’t, I’ve had a six hour debate with a dude on it but homosexuality is a result of the social cognition theory

            We Want To Live

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            • E ebony

              Ik animals and also primates (including humans) used to have same-sex all the time 10,000 years ago, but incest an rape are also seen in nature and that doesn't make them good. Would you say sex is only for reproduction between a male and a female and using it for smth else is unnatural?

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              @ebony you shouldnt feel sexual stuff for a man since biologically that feeling is designed to reporoduce, so if you feeling that towards the same gender this just means something is cooked

              never stress

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              • E ebony

                Ik animals and also primates (including humans) used to have same-sex all the time 10,000 years ago, but incest an rape are also seen in nature and that doesn't make them good. Would you say sex is only for reproduction between a male and a female and using it for smth else is unnatural?

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                @ebony something being bad doesn't mean its unnatural. i think it depends heavily. if someone is ONLY attracted to their own sex then they're just retarded, being attractive to both I think is natural but this is because as humans we have genuine feelings. most people don't just think "reproduce, reproduce, reproduce", we form actual bonds with other people regardless of gender. these feelings that humans have aren't unnatural

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                • E ebony

                  Ik animals and also primates (including humans) used to have same-sex all the time 10,000 years ago, but incest an rape are also seen in nature and that doesn't make them good. Would you say sex is only for reproduction between a male and a female and using it for smth else is unnatural?

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                  @ebony when our ancestors did drvgs and drew in caves,it was only for pleasure and it was usless,same for say gex so the fact that its useless doesnt make it unatural,unless you think that drawing and taking shrooms is unaturalt,thats my opinion.

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                  • E ebony

                    Ik animals and also primates (including humans) used to have same-sex all the time 10,000 years ago, but incest an rape are also seen in nature and that doesn't make them good. Would you say sex is only for reproduction between a male and a female and using it for smth else is unnatural?

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                    @ebony natural doesnt mean its good nigga, as much as we are far from nature but also humans did alot of bad shit during their evolution, evolution can go both ways bad and good so if a thing happened in nature that doesnt mean its necessarily good thats just a logical fallacy

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                    • ShaprawyS Shaprawy

                      @ebony natural doesnt mean its good nigga, as much as we are far from nature but also humans did alot of bad shit during their evolution, evolution can go both ways bad and good so if a thing happened in nature that doesnt mean its necessarily good thats just a logical fallacy

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                      @Shaprawy yea but the question is whether it's natural or not. I'm christian so I already see it as a moral abomination

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                      • E ebony

                        @Shaprawy yea but the question is whether it's natural or not. I'm christian so I already see it as a moral abomination

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                        @ebony no nigga obv its not wtf, how are you going to fulfill your biological end goal (reproducing) when ur gay? i think u have some intrinsic gay thoughts u should do something abt it man

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                        • E ebony

                          @Shaprawy yea but the question is whether it's natural or not. I'm christian so I already see it as a moral abomination

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                          @ebony It is very much natural, though "naturalness" or "naturality" is not a virtue, nor a standard of morality.

                          Aristotle, Ayn, Aajonus.

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                          • RawseiR Rawsei

                            @ebony It is very much natural, though "naturalness" or "naturality" is not a virtue, nor a standard of morality.

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                            @Rawsei yea but im not judging its morality based on whether it's natural or not. i'm judging it as intrinsically disordered because God told us it is (objective morality)

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                            • ShaprawyS Shaprawy

                              @ebony no nigga obv its not wtf, how are you going to fulfill your biological end goal (reproducing) when ur gay? i think u have some intrinsic gay thoughts u should do something abt it man

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                              @Shaprawy do you believe we can use our reproductive organs in a sexual way for a purpose besides reproduction? or are we limited to our natural end goal only?

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                                @Shaprawy do you believe we can use our reproductive organs in a sexual way for a purpose besides reproduction? or are we limited to our natural end goal only?

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                                @ebony nigga wtf are you on? this is the most common sensibly obvious thing ever, yes dicks are made to be in pussies not men assholes, u cant reproduce with a male dumbass, and why do u view it as "limited"? wdym by limited btw? u think there is some sort of hidden thing that will happen when u try fucking men?

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                                • ShaprawyS Shaprawy

                                  @ebony nigga wtf are you on? this is the most common sensibly obvious thing ever, yes dicks are made to be in pussies not men assholes, u cant reproduce with a male dumbass, and why do u view it as "limited"? wdym by limited btw? u think there is some sort of hidden thing that will happen when u try fucking men?

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                                  @Shaprawy calm yo ass down? obv jesus made our dicks for pussies and pussies for dicks. That's the entire point of reproduction. But I'm asking you if you think sex is only for reproduction, or if it can be used for other purposes. That's what I mean by "limited to reproduction." You're obv not gonna plant a baby in a guy's shit-hole

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                                  • E ebony

                                    @Rawsei yea but im not judging its morality based on whether it's natural or not. i'm judging it as intrinsically disordered because God told us it is (objective morality)

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                                    @ebony "God told us" is not objective morality lmao

                                    Aristotle, Ayn, Aajonus.

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                                    • RawseiR Rawsei

                                      @ebony "God told us" is not objective morality lmao

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                                      @Rawsei yes it is, God's commandments are where I derive my morality from. It's not subjective

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                                      • E ebony

                                        @Rawsei yes it is, God's commandments are where I derive my morality from. It's not subjective

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                                        @ebony Could you please provide evidence for the existence of this "god"?

                                        Aristotle, Ayn, Aajonus.

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                                        • RawseiR Rawsei

                                          @ebony Could you please provide evidence for the existence of this "god"?

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                                          @Rawsei What evidence do you accept? if i use logic, you can say it's human convention. scripture, you can say it's man-made. experience, you can say it's subjective. what evidence do you accept and under which axioms? 🤔

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