Is homosexuality natural or unnatural?
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Ik animals and also primates (including humans) used to have same-sex all the time 10,000 years ago, but incest an rape are also seen in nature and that doesn't make them good. Would you say sex is only for reproduction between a male and a female and using it for smth else is unnatural?
@ebony Depends on your standard for "natural". There's inherently nothing unnatural about it.
The counterarguments for this would be something like "muh reproduction", but the purpose of sex is not reproduction.
The purpose of sex can not be reproduction, for there are no purposes planned in advance. Evolution does not work that way.Aristotle, Ayn, Aajonus.
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@ebony Depends on your standard for "natural". There's inherently nothing unnatural about it.
The counterarguments for this would be something like "muh reproduction", but the purpose of sex is not reproduction.
The purpose of sex can not be reproduction, for there are no purposes planned in advance. Evolution does not work that way. -
@Rawsei Oh my fucking god man. Just... Go on with your ignorance.
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Ik animals and also primates (including humans) used to have same-sex all the time 10,000 years ago, but incest an rape are also seen in nature and that doesn't make them good. Would you say sex is only for reproduction between a male and a female and using it for smth else is unnatural?
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Unnatural. You can't reproduce and have children, resulting in your bloodline ending.
Also, humans did not have the same gender sex. That's a religious belief. You could never prove that.
@GeoGatis We know the homosapien species had same-sex relations beacaue it exists in every single animal species, and we are animals. Religion demonized homosexuality, it didn't promote it. Our closest primates have same-sex for bonding, and even normal sex is not just for reproduction.
nonethless, I'm a christian so I believe we should put our morals above our instincts, and should not follow unhealthy desires, especially sexual ones.
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@GeoGatis At least try to give a refutation of my text instead of sperging out like a low t faggot
@Rawsei You brain-dead retards in the chat are just ridiculous. Genuinely what are you talking abt. No being a gay faggot is not natural. No its not something our ancestors did. And no you can't prove it. I thought more ppl would agree with me here but I guess not. I'm surrounded by retards.
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@GeoGatis We know the homosapien species had same-sex relations beacaue it exists in every single animal species, and we are animals. Religion demonized homosexuality, it didn't promote it. Our closest primates have same-sex for bonding, and even normal sex is not just for reproduction.
nonethless, I'm a christian so I believe we should put our morals above our instincts, and should not follow unhealthy desires, especially sexual ones.
@ebony Its not in EVERY single animal species. And just because its in other species doesn't mean it automatically applies to us. Ants commit incest, should we? Sex IS for reproduction. We evolved or were created to, whichever one you believe, enjoy sex because it produces offspring.
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@ebony there is homosexuality in nature, its mostly between male and male. the reason for doing it is to curry favor with the alpha male or some shit
@piss Nah. Bonobos, our closest animal cousins, have lesbian sex all the damn time (75% of them). It's because bonobos literally don't know how to fight so they resolve all their conflicts through diplomacy and sex. Difference is that we know how to fight so we can use force to dominate instead of sex.
Another close cousin is chimpanzees and they actially do fight (a lot) which is why same-sex is less common. But gay sex happens for domination (basically rape) and reconcilation after fights.
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@piss Nah. Bonobos, our closest animal cousins, have lesbian sex all the damn time (75% of them). It's because bonobos literally don't know how to fight so they resolve all their conflicts through diplomacy and sex. Difference is that we know how to fight so we can use force to dominate instead of sex.
Another close cousin is chimpanzees and they actially do fight (a lot) which is why same-sex is less common. But gay sex happens for domination (basically rape) and reconcilation after fights.
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@ebony Its not in EVERY single animal species. And just because its in other species doesn't mean it automatically applies to us. Ants commit incest, should we? Sex IS for reproduction. We evolved or were created to, whichever one you believe, enjoy sex because it produces offspring.
@GeoGatis I totally agree with you that we shouldn't do the shit other animals do (like rape and infanticide), because we have morality and it can override our instincts. But same-sex exists in every social species we have ever studied (except fish and insects), and we are the most social species.
Our oldest ancestor (6 million years ago) had same sex, so how would we have evolved to stop having it? The male prostate evolved to specifically develop nerves that cause pleasure with contact there, so it developed over millions of years for a reason.
If you're christian, you have objective morality so you know what overrides animalistic instinct and what doesn't. Sex = only in marriage. Marriage = only between man and woman. Murder, rape, cannabilism... = evil. Etc. But idk if you're making a biological argument or moral argument. If moral, I agree with u.
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@GeoGatis I totally agree with you that we shouldn't do the shit other animals do (like rape and infanticide), because we have morality and it can override our instincts. But same-sex exists in every social species we have ever studied (except fish and insects), and we are the most social species.
Our oldest ancestor (6 million years ago) had same sex, so how would we have evolved to stop having it? The male prostate evolved to specifically develop nerves that cause pleasure with contact there, so it developed over millions of years for a reason.
If you're christian, you have objective morality so you know what overrides animalistic instinct and what doesn't. Sex = only in marriage. Marriage = only between man and woman. Murder, rape, cannabilism... = evil. Etc. But idk if you're making a biological argument or moral argument. If moral, I agree with u.
@ebony 6 million?
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@piss they rub their
together as a way to bond and form coalitions. i searched it up but it wasn't sexy because they're monkeys 
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@ebony 6 million?
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@ebony You mean not enough years ago right?
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@ebony You mean not enough years ago right?
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@ebony Let them cook!
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Guys when are we having our first rawprimal.org orgy, completely organic and natural as nature intended
