Kefir and fermented raw milk

[ENAMV]

What's the best way to make both? I've heard that you can make kefir just by spitting in the milk and letting it ferment, but wouldn't that be just a normal fermented milk? Can I use any kefir "sample" to start growing it on my own? Thanks for the attention

[love]

https://rawprimal.org/topic/98/making-more-out-of-your-milk

[ENAMV]

@love thanks

[Rabbi]

@love I wouldnt maybe recommend that, it's too earobic, you need it to be anaerobic as lactic acid bacteria are anaerobic

[love]

@Rabbi From my experience, milk becomes unpleasantly sour with air.

[Rabbi]

@love yeah they can grow aerobic too goodly, they just grow little bit slower aerobicly.