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we are underestimating parasites (and downplaying their risks)

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  • chubbyfeministC Offline
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    I feel like we don’t talk enough about parasites in detail, and the lack of discussion (plus people just taking primal influencers word without questioning ANYTHING) kind of leaves a lot of people either confused or scared of our nature/natural food.
    heres my observations that havent been answered by any big primal influencer in the hopes that it will be debunked.
    For example, some parasites clearly don’t just coexist in a harmless way. Toxoplasma gondii changes rodent behavior so they lose fear of predators and get eaten. And Leucochloridium paradoxum basically hijacks snails and makes them more visible to birds so they get eaten. Stuff like that just shows that some parasites are not there to just sit peacefully.
    Historically too, parasites clearly affected people back in the day. Ancient texts like the Ebers Papyrus mention worms and treatments for them, Greeks talked about intestinal worms(Hippocratic Corpus text remains), and there are descriptions that match the parasite Dracunculus medinensis. So it’s not like parasites only became a thing because we went away from our nature.
    some influencers claim they might have benefits for the immune system, but its pretty weak evidence, mostly association , small clinical trials, no cause and effect relationship, mostly short term, and even with that, theres no significant diffrences between the infected and non infected.
    And in many actual medical cases, parasites, like Taenia solium and Trichinella spiralis has been shown to do things like grow cysts in tissues or neurological issues. And the parasite Dracunculus medinensis is literally a worm slowly emerging through the body over weeks.
    my main point is that this topic needs to be talked about more deeply, that, bacteria and viruses.

    Anyways i just wanted to larp a little, not expecting anyone to read all that, it was mostly from boredom.
    theres probably an explanation to all of those observations, nature is not evil.

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    • chubbyfeministC chubbyfeminist

      I feel like we don’t talk enough about parasites in detail, and the lack of discussion (plus people just taking primal influencers word without questioning ANYTHING) kind of leaves a lot of people either confused or scared of our nature/natural food.
      heres my observations that havent been answered by any big primal influencer in the hopes that it will be debunked.
      For example, some parasites clearly don’t just coexist in a harmless way. Toxoplasma gondii changes rodent behavior so they lose fear of predators and get eaten. And Leucochloridium paradoxum basically hijacks snails and makes them more visible to birds so they get eaten. Stuff like that just shows that some parasites are not there to just sit peacefully.
      Historically too, parasites clearly affected people back in the day. Ancient texts like the Ebers Papyrus mention worms and treatments for them, Greeks talked about intestinal worms(Hippocratic Corpus text remains), and there are descriptions that match the parasite Dracunculus medinensis. So it’s not like parasites only became a thing because we went away from our nature.
      some influencers claim they might have benefits for the immune system, but its pretty weak evidence, mostly association , small clinical trials, no cause and effect relationship, mostly short term, and even with that, theres no significant diffrences between the infected and non infected.
      And in many actual medical cases, parasites, like Taenia solium and Trichinella spiralis has been shown to do things like grow cysts in tissues or neurological issues. And the parasite Dracunculus medinensis is literally a worm slowly emerging through the body over weeks.
      my main point is that this topic needs to be talked about more deeply, that, bacteria and viruses.

      Anyways i just wanted to larp a little, not expecting anyone to read all that, it was mostly from boredom.
      theres probably an explanation to all of those observations, nature is not evil.

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      @chubbyfeminist Look up terrain theory.

      Raw liver enjoyer

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      • chubbyfeministC chubbyfeminist

        I feel like we don’t talk enough about parasites in detail, and the lack of discussion (plus people just taking primal influencers word without questioning ANYTHING) kind of leaves a lot of people either confused or scared of our nature/natural food.
        heres my observations that havent been answered by any big primal influencer in the hopes that it will be debunked.
        For example, some parasites clearly don’t just coexist in a harmless way. Toxoplasma gondii changes rodent behavior so they lose fear of predators and get eaten. And Leucochloridium paradoxum basically hijacks snails and makes them more visible to birds so they get eaten. Stuff like that just shows that some parasites are not there to just sit peacefully.
        Historically too, parasites clearly affected people back in the day. Ancient texts like the Ebers Papyrus mention worms and treatments for them, Greeks talked about intestinal worms(Hippocratic Corpus text remains), and there are descriptions that match the parasite Dracunculus medinensis. So it’s not like parasites only became a thing because we went away from our nature.
        some influencers claim they might have benefits for the immune system, but its pretty weak evidence, mostly association , small clinical trials, no cause and effect relationship, mostly short term, and even with that, theres no significant diffrences between the infected and non infected.
        And in many actual medical cases, parasites, like Taenia solium and Trichinella spiralis has been shown to do things like grow cysts in tissues or neurological issues. And the parasite Dracunculus medinensis is literally a worm slowly emerging through the body over weeks.
        my main point is that this topic needs to be talked about more deeply, that, bacteria and viruses.

        Anyways i just wanted to larp a little, not expecting anyone to read all that, it was mostly from boredom.
        theres probably an explanation to all of those observations, nature is not evil.

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        @chubbyfeminist
        Uh and what medical and scientific establishments claimed these things and gave you seen them yourself

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          I feel like we don’t talk enough about parasites in detail, and the lack of discussion (plus people just taking primal influencers word without questioning ANYTHING) kind of leaves a lot of people either confused or scared of our nature/natural food.
          heres my observations that havent been answered by any big primal influencer in the hopes that it will be debunked.
          For example, some parasites clearly don’t just coexist in a harmless way. Toxoplasma gondii changes rodent behavior so they lose fear of predators and get eaten. And Leucochloridium paradoxum basically hijacks snails and makes them more visible to birds so they get eaten. Stuff like that just shows that some parasites are not there to just sit peacefully.
          Historically too, parasites clearly affected people back in the day. Ancient texts like the Ebers Papyrus mention worms and treatments for them, Greeks talked about intestinal worms(Hippocratic Corpus text remains), and there are descriptions that match the parasite Dracunculus medinensis. So it’s not like parasites only became a thing because we went away from our nature.
          some influencers claim they might have benefits for the immune system, but its pretty weak evidence, mostly association , small clinical trials, no cause and effect relationship, mostly short term, and even with that, theres no significant diffrences between the infected and non infected.
          And in many actual medical cases, parasites, like Taenia solium and Trichinella spiralis has been shown to do things like grow cysts in tissues or neurological issues. And the parasite Dracunculus medinensis is literally a worm slowly emerging through the body over weeks.
          my main point is that this topic needs to be talked about more deeply, that, bacteria and viruses.

          Anyways i just wanted to larp a little, not expecting anyone to read all that, it was mostly from boredom.
          theres probably an explanation to all of those observations, nature is not evil.

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          @chubbyfeminist
          Also in humans you know toxoplasmosis makes you better developed and more attractive right?

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            @chubbyfeminist
            Uh and what medical and scientific establishments claimed these things and gave you seen them yourself

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            @iblamedoctors
            your claim that toxoplasmosis "makes" you better developed and more attractive is based purely on association studies of small trials and sample bias, its just not enough to make a causal statement like that.
            heres the evidence for some of my claims on humans:
            taenia solium (cysticercosis)
            PMC4545012
            PubMed 31208369
            trichinella spiralis:
            PMC8536450
            pubmed 942767
            for the guinea worm:
            PMC3560170
            i highly recommend searching guinea worm infections,cysticercosis and neurocysticercosis and going on images, theres no denying that.

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              Parasites eat degenerative tissue. It’s more and more common for there to not be a single healthy cell in someone’s entire body. People are so unhealthy they cannot replace the cells consumed by parasites, in that situation actually having a cell (10% effective cell) is better than none at all.

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