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The most vegan thing is actually raw flesh and organs

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    I had to share this thought with you guys because I had it recently and it's hilarious.

    Veganism is mostly considered more of a moral argument than a nutritional one. The vegans that try to argue anything about nutrition obviously just don't know what they are talking about and have never heard of the concept of an antinutrient or bioavailability.
    The moral argument is that they are on a mission to reduce the suffering of animals. The hypocrisy starts with the process of modern day agriculture. This depletes the topsoil and the minerals within it. If you think you are contributing less to suffering by eating plants, then you haven't looked into it for more than 5 seconds. The amount of small animals that die as a result of the pesticides and insecticides is absurd. Snakes, mice, and insects, which are crucial to the surrounding ecosystems, all get decimated. These things die, without gathering any nutrition for humans. Is it suddenly more okay because they are small? I don't think that is an argument to be made. I think they think that they are exempt from guilt because they are not eating the creatures directly. So it's about their comfort the entire time, and not the animals suffering. So in summary, current 'veganism' contributes entirely to monocrop agriculture which takes a considerable amount of land all while destroying ecosystems, the topsoil, and the minerals within the soil. The diet itself is bereft of nutrition to the point of self harm.
    If you were to actually properly tackle the challenge of veganism and minimize the suffering of animals, you would eat the raw flesh of regeneratively-raised beef. Regenerative ranching sequesters carbon back into the soil, rebuilds the topsoil, returns minerals into the soil, all while providing the best, most bioavailable nutrition available. Regenerative ranching doesn't feed into the monocrop agriculture industry and land that couldn't be used for agriculture can be used to feed the cows without leveling the land. It's the most 'humane' method of making food. In short, it gives back to the land while simultaneously harnessing its resources. Only one animal is killed for a lot of meat, and this animal lived a life as close to its natural life as possible. This is the best solution we have to fulfill the goals of a vegan. They just don't look any further than factory farms. Factory farming at its worst is a pretty terrible practice, I admit this and wish it was abolished. But they can't turn a blind eye to their hypocrisy. Raw meat is always the way. Current 'veganism' increases the suffering of humans, ecosystems, and animals. All while polluting the planet with pesticides, herbicides, and insecticides. If they were actually vegan they would eat raw flesh and organs, but they aren't comfortable with that.

    Enjoy the raw milk

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      The logic is if they're not directly killing and eating an animal then its morally correct. ive also seen a lot of vegans argue that we have to farm crops to feed animals anyways. its so hard to argue with a vegan because they really wont ever listen to yuor points

      If you want to shine like the sun, First you have to burn like it

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      • themanwhosleepsT themanwhosleeps

        The logic is if they're not directly killing and eating an animal then its morally correct. ive also seen a lot of vegans argue that we have to farm crops to feed animals anyways. its so hard to argue with a vegan because they really wont ever listen to yuor points

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        @themanwhosleeps It's the b12 deficiency that keeps them close-minded

        Enjoy the raw milk

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          @themanwhosleeps It's the b12 deficiency that keeps them close-minded

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          @Swansven lol is that the actual reason or is it just that personality type

          If you want to shine like the sun, First you have to burn like it

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          • SwansvenS Swansven

            I had to share this thought with you guys because I had it recently and it's hilarious.

            Veganism is mostly considered more of a moral argument than a nutritional one. The vegans that try to argue anything about nutrition obviously just don't know what they are talking about and have never heard of the concept of an antinutrient or bioavailability.
            The moral argument is that they are on a mission to reduce the suffering of animals. The hypocrisy starts with the process of modern day agriculture. This depletes the topsoil and the minerals within it. If you think you are contributing less to suffering by eating plants, then you haven't looked into it for more than 5 seconds. The amount of small animals that die as a result of the pesticides and insecticides is absurd. Snakes, mice, and insects, which are crucial to the surrounding ecosystems, all get decimated. These things die, without gathering any nutrition for humans. Is it suddenly more okay because they are small? I don't think that is an argument to be made. I think they think that they are exempt from guilt because they are not eating the creatures directly. So it's about their comfort the entire time, and not the animals suffering. So in summary, current 'veganism' contributes entirely to monocrop agriculture which takes a considerable amount of land all while destroying ecosystems, the topsoil, and the minerals within the soil. The diet itself is bereft of nutrition to the point of self harm.
            If you were to actually properly tackle the challenge of veganism and minimize the suffering of animals, you would eat the raw flesh of regeneratively-raised beef. Regenerative ranching sequesters carbon back into the soil, rebuilds the topsoil, returns minerals into the soil, all while providing the best, most bioavailable nutrition available. Regenerative ranching doesn't feed into the monocrop agriculture industry and land that couldn't be used for agriculture can be used to feed the cows without leveling the land. It's the most 'humane' method of making food. In short, it gives back to the land while simultaneously harnessing its resources. Only one animal is killed for a lot of meat, and this animal lived a life as close to its natural life as possible. This is the best solution we have to fulfill the goals of a vegan. They just don't look any further than factory farms. Factory farming at its worst is a pretty terrible practice, I admit this and wish it was abolished. But they can't turn a blind eye to their hypocrisy. Raw meat is always the way. Current 'veganism' increases the suffering of humans, ecosystems, and animals. All while polluting the planet with pesticides, herbicides, and insecticides. If they were actually vegan they would eat raw flesh and organs, but they aren't comfortable with that.

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            @Swansven gonna show this to my mom next time she tries to argue with me lol

            3:05PM

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            • themanwhosleepsT themanwhosleeps

              @Swansven lol is that the actual reason or is it just that personality type

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              @themanwhosleeps Hard to tell but the deficiencies certainly can't help

              Enjoy the raw milk

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                @Swansven gonna show this to my mom next time she tries to argue with me lol

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                @L204660 great idea

                Enjoy the raw milk

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                • themanwhosleepsT themanwhosleeps

                  @Swansven lol is that the actual reason or is it just that personality type

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                  @themanwhosleeps Probably that they are in a completely different bio chemical state then us. Makes it very difficult for them to understand.

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