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Do you think God exists?

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  • SintezPLS Offline
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    No just cause something is prefect doesn't mean it had to have been created my an omnipotent being, does any other animal then us talk about God ? Just my opinion tho

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    • RabbiR Offline
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      I think there is some creator because how complex and beautiful biology is and this overall reality. but we dont just know who it is, maybe the creator gives hints and we just dont see them yet.

      We want to live!

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        I don't think a creator exists. I think life was created from the principles of the universe which may have always existed. From chaos arose order. In my opinion, logic created nature.

        Enjoy the raw milk

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        • SwansvenS Swansven

          I don't think a creator exists. I think life was created from the principles of the universe which may have always existed. From chaos arose order. In my opinion, logic created nature.

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          @Swansven so you are saying basically from nothingess came highly unique biological animals which there are 1000s of different species. you dont rly understand how unique we are in this planet

          We want to live!

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            @Swansven so you are saying basically from nothingess came highly unique biological animals which there are 1000s of different species. you dont rly understand how unique we are in this planet

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            @Rabbi https://youtu.be/XX7PdJIGiCw?si=6Q6g6uBPvqaIJ9bU
            This video essentially summarizes my beliefs in a way better than I could explain. For evidence that order can arise out of chaos, look at langton's ant.

            Enjoy the raw milk

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            • SwansvenS Swansven

              @Rabbi https://youtu.be/XX7PdJIGiCw?si=6Q6g6uBPvqaIJ9bU
              This video essentially summarizes my beliefs in a way better than I could explain. For evidence that order can arise out of chaos, look at langton's ant.

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              @Swansven yeah of course universe has underlying things we dont see that make this place work but the main thing is who created those

              We want to live!

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              • RabbiR Rabbi

                @Swansven yeah of course universe has underlying things we dont see that make this place work but the main thing is who created those

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                @Rabbi who created the person who created them?

                Enjoy the raw milk

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                • SwansvenS Swansven

                  @Rabbi who created the person who created them?

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                  @Swansven Yeah i understand that point. But at the end the answer to "what created universe" might be so weird we will never get it with out brains. It would be quite delusional to even think we could get it kinda.

                  We want to live!

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                  • loveL Offline
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                    There is no creation without a creator and the creator obviously must be the 100% source. that means there can’t even be 1% of darkness or nothingness in him, now if we look around only Jesus fits this description

                    Love knows no hate. Know Jesus and forget hatred.

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                      Knowledge about God doesn’t necessarily lead to faith in God btw

                      Love knows no hate. Know Jesus and forget hatred.

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                      • SwansvenS Swansven

                        @Rabbi who created the person who created them?

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                        @Swansven Im not 100% sure if this is going to answer your question as Im not sure if i fully understand it so forgive me if it doesn’t, but as we are humans we only see things as having a beginning and an end (birth and death) so we are unable to fully comprehend a being that has existed for eternity and will carry on existing for eternity - to us eternity and immortality is too vast as a concept for us to be able to ever understand since we are just mortals.
                        God was not created or designed he has just always been there, thats what I believe at least but I also understand that believing that can be very hard.

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                          @Swansven Im not 100% sure if this is going to answer your question as Im not sure if i fully understand it so forgive me if it doesn’t, but as we are humans we only see things as having a beginning and an end (birth and death) so we are unable to fully comprehend a being that has existed for eternity and will carry on existing for eternity - to us eternity and immortality is too vast as a concept for us to be able to ever understand since we are just mortals.
                          God was not created or designed he has just always been there, thats what I believe at least but I also understand that believing that can be very hard.

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                          @ela this is true. The creator does not exist as a "thing" or entity because a thing would have to have been created by something. This means the creator would have to be nothing or nothingness, seeing as all things that exist are a product of creation. If you filter out everything that is classified as a thing and part if creation you are left with a void or nothingness.

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                          • elaE ela

                            @Swansven Im not 100% sure if this is going to answer your question as Im not sure if i fully understand it so forgive me if it doesn’t, but as we are humans we only see things as having a beginning and an end (birth and death) so we are unable to fully comprehend a being that has existed for eternity and will carry on existing for eternity - to us eternity and immortality is too vast as a concept for us to be able to ever understand since we are just mortals.
                            God was not created or designed he has just always been there, thats what I believe at least but I also understand that believing that can be very hard.

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                            @ela how come it's viable that a god always existed but not reality?

                            Enjoy the raw milk

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                            • SwansvenS Swansven

                              @ela how come it's viable that a god always existed but not reality?

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                              @Swansven because God is outside of time and space, but it is almost impossible for people to imagine this

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                                Mother nature is the closest you can get to god, the holy books have many faults and illogical statements.

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                                • nochyN nochy

                                  I think yes, because nature is perfect, and it could not have appeared by chance.

                                  Just as nature created us in a way our body tells us when we are hungry, or our instincts tell us what is good for us and what is not, the same way nature gave to us an obligation and people are predisposed to believe in supreme beings and the afterlife. Different tribes around the world that have never interacted have many similarities in their myths. Humans has this from birth and it is not indoctrinated or carried solely through power-sustained hierarchies.

                                  I'd be glad to hear your opinion.

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                                  @nochik41 no, and there’s no reason to think that there is. No animal thinks that there is a god, and even if there is he won’t care if we believe in him or not. Reality is just your mind projecting itself, so how could there be someone more powerful than you in this world?

                                  Relax and do as you please

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